• jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
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    Back when Zoom recalled all their employees to the office a couple years ago, that should have been the end for them.

    Their product is designed to facilitate remote work and communication and they basically advertised to the entire world that, in their minds, it’s ineffective. That was a blunder of epic proportions.

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      Most of the people I work aren’t even in the same timezone as me. Even when in the office, we use Teams for meetings for recording and note keeping.

      I don’t know if they advertise that with zoom going to the office isn’t needed, but even going to the office something like this is useful.

      And any alternative to fucking teams is good by me

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      This is a terrible opinion. Just because you work in a motorcycle shop doesn’t mean you suck if you ride a bicycle. If my grandmother had wheels she would be a wheelchair.

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          There are people who prefer the office. There are meetings better held in person. There are things you cannot do in remote, such as working together on a blackboard.

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            There are people who prefer the office.

            Truth, no argument here

            There are things you cannot do in remote, such as working together on a blackboard.

            Inaccurate, you can definitely have shared drawing space remotely.

            But really, none of this has to do with the comparison you made. It’s like this thread has a bunch of middle managers in it trying to justify return to office mandates or something.

            Some people really hate going to the office too, and there is the saying of ‘eat your own dog food’ it seems weird that zoom, a platform for remote work, would have a giant office building. You can argue servers blah blah, but I’m not convinced that’s a data center.

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            The issue is not that WFH works for everyone. The issue is that RTO was mandated for everyone.

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              Any company that mandates RTO should pay massively higher taxes to account for the externalities — we spend trillions in higher medical and infrastructure costs, not to mention the incalculable damage to families who are robbed of precious hours together for absolutely no reason. The boards of directors of these companies should be bankrupted and thrown into gulags.

              It costs society nothing to replace C-suite management, since they’re all morons. Speaking from experience, the people graduating from (and teaching at) Harvard business school are so dumb, it figuratively blew my mind.

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        Well if the reason you’re riding a bicycle is because you’re so utterly shit at building motorcycles they either don’t work or you don’t trust riding them, then yeah, it does matter.