• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    1 year ago

    Pretty obvious that western media has a lot of great reasons to misrepresent the truth to keep people such as yourself thinking that disastrous policies western governments are pursuing are actually working.

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      Sure, which is why I try to get multiple sources.

      The problem with countries like China (and probably Russia) is that their governments can directly interfere with news reporting. That’s possible to an extent in western countries, but it’s a lot less likely to happen without journalists making a big fuss because of our cultural and legal freedoms of the press.

      I’m hesitant to believe anything when I have a single source, and I’m more hesitant if multiple sources are from the friendly countries where the governments have direct control over the media.

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        1 year ago

        Doesn’t the US have a track record of literally assassinating journalists who dig into things they aren’t supposed to?

        Doesn’t the US also have a track record of hunting down whistleblowers around the world? Of extrajudicial surveillance and illegal international surveillance and mass surveillance?

        Not sure the Western world has a great role model there.

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          1 year ago

          Yes, the US is far from perfect, which it why is a good idea to get news from a variety of sources. I try to read about the Ukraine war from other perspectives, for example.

          But those instances are:

          • illegal and therefore quite rare
          • generally limited to instances of revealing state secrets (as in the case of Assange, Snowdon, etc)
          • very unpopular

          So in general, journalists have much more freedom to criticize their government here in the US vs Russia or China, and to me that has value. It’s not perfect and you can certainly get a lot of misinformation through strong biases here (i.e. many people assume their country is in the right), but it’s way better in pretty much any western country than a country with a much more authoritarian government.

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            1 year ago

            You can argue pretty much the exact same three points about government intervention in journalism everywhere.

            Not really selling your point.

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              1 year ago

              Your argument just seems like classic bothsidesism. Yes, western media isn’t perfect, but western news media is far more free than Russian or Chinese media. So I’m gonna have a lot more skepticism about Russian and Chinese media than I do with US or European media.

              In this case, I’d prefer something outside both regions. So maybe Indian news? Or my go-to, Al Jazeera.

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                1 year ago

                So our standard is… “we’re killing journalists and stifling perspectives, but not as much as the other guys?”

                Great. I guess Western news media is driven by profits instead of government objectives, which makes things so much better.

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        1 year ago

        I agree with your thoughts on reading multiple sources, but in regards to your trust for Western over other countries see the Propaganda Model, specifically on sourcing, ownership, and anti-communism/fear

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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        1 year ago

        Anybody who wasn’t born yesterday realizes that western governments constantly interfere in news reporting as well. What’s worse is that all the news is owned by a handful of oligarchs, and entire books have been written on how western media manipulates public opinion. Here are a couple you should read: