despite being owned by a state with which the UK has many interests economically will it be one of the cases that might go unpunished?

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    I don’t know. If my club suddenly got bought by a country and was able to buy success perpetually, I don’t know how I would react. I’d like to think my rational self would take over and I would stop supporting the club, but it’s just as likely that the emotional/irrational self would take control.

    Ultimately, I think it’s unfair to criticize supporters or look down on them. They aren’t the problem. The governing bodies allowing state ownership of clubs is the problem.

    How silly is it to allow a country to buy a club but then not allow them to spend their own money to fulfill the purpose behind buying the club in the first place. The whole thing is bananas.

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      Some people have principles. I wouldn’t support Liverpool if they were bought out. I’d probably go non league like my Dad (who went non league after the owners tried to trademark the word “Liverpool” and put prices up). Got a lot of respect for my Dad for that.

      But yeah, being a sportswashing project would be the very last straw. Football is already a soulless entity as it is.

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        Big oily nation’s circling Spurs now. I’d be out and I fucking hate that they can do that.

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        But that’s my point. Why are we expecting the supporters to take the high moral ground here? Why aren’t football authorities held to the same standard?

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        lmao as if you would, mate.

        You don’t just stop supporting a club, if you think that then you never truly supported it in the first place.

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        I wouldn’t support my club if they caused the entire league to be banned from European football due to the disgusting behaviour of their own supporters which resulted in the deaths of dozens of innocent people. The fans are the heart and soul of a club and that kind of stain is very difficult to wash away, can’t imagine myself carrying on supporting after that.

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          This justification for your success being due to modern slavery, brutality and authoritarianism is incredible.

          Forgetting that your fans and players sing a song about a man brutally attacked by Roma ultras resulting in brain damage of course. Heart and soul of the club indeed.

          So according to your own logic, you’re well chuffed about all of this.

          chef’s kiss

          It’s good to see you’re such a bunch of scumbags, you’re willing to use a horrific tragedy to justify taking blood money while taking the moral high ground. Impressive.

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            you’re willing to use a horrific tragedy to justify taking blood money while taking the moral high ground

            lol wtf does that even mean.
            Your club sings about the Munich disaster, takes sponsorship money from a terrorism supporting bank, hacks other clubs to steal scouting data, has feral fans who attack opposition team coaches or throw pint pots full of coins in the stadium etc. The list goes on. I’m very happy to not be associated with scumbaggery like that.

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              You seem to carry a lot of hatred inside. I would seek help if I were in your shoes. It’s football and you’re spewing hatred and holds grudges.

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            He is trying to use whataboutism. Whataboutism is often used by people who are mentally set back and lacks empathy. To those people the world basically revolves around them and their choisen. They will do anything to justify their choises even stoop to such lows as snowiestflakes chose to. It says a lot about him, but he is best left alone.

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          Do you feel better about yourself now? You’re the type of person that smell your own farts.

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      It’s bloody hard tbh. I don’t think our takeover should’ve been allowed, and it was only allowed to happen due to flagrant Tory corruption. I say that even though without it we’d probably be watching Steve Bruce set us up for long ball footballat Plymouth away.

      I can’t pretend that I’m not enjoying our recent success and the general positivity around the club, and watching us in a cup final and the champions league with me elderly dad is something I wouldn’t have dreamed would happen a few years ago - but it’s tinged with the sadness of knowing that it’s been made possible by blood money.

      I worry that in 5-10 years it will all just feel soulless, despite the inevitable success heading our way. I’ve already started to watch a lot more of my favourite non-leagues side, but it’s never quite the same feeling when you’ve ‘picked’ a side, compared to supporting your local or family team. Me Dad, being from the North East, thinks the idea of not supporting Newcastle is like being ex-communicated from your native church.

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        I respect your POV. I feel far too many NUFC fans and MCFC fans only takes the highs and cares about the highs and almost goes blind about the lows, the dark side of their succes story. The sole reason the clubs are seeing succes. But at what cost.

        It’s as if they take it as a personal attack and have to defend their club with every fiber of their being, when in reality you can still support your club without supporting your owner. I really lack that from NUFC and MCFC fans, so it’s nice to see there are some round and about with that POV. The football world is taken hostage by sportswashing, it ain’t fun times, but money talks. I still believe and even more so hope, we will take our sport back eventually.