It happens. Imagine how Barca feels about Gavi’s injury. In general player are being overplayed. The game has become more physical and faster and yet players are being asked to play 2 to 3 times a week, at the highest level.
Gutted for him - seems like a decent lad, although he did seem surprisingly easy to knock over when we played them the other week… looked like a stiff breeze was enough!
Hope he recovers quickly though - bit ridiculous that straight after making another bet with Callum Wilson they’re both immediately out injured
They’re better off without him anyway
Shit happens
Players need rest.
TIL Antonio plays for Jamaica, and I’m a West Ham fan. Shit news though.
Jamaican me crazy - Moyes
Ya but is it worse than racism?
“””First Time?”””” Every London cub ever
Why?
Was his annual shot on target due soon?
“Gerard Houllier’s thoughts on the matter international football echo mine. He thinks that what the national coaches are doing is like taking the car from his garage without even asking permission. They will then use the car for ten days and abandon it in a field without any petrol left in the tank. We then have to recover it, but it is broken down. Then a month later they will come to take your car again, and for good measure you’re expected to be nice about it.” - Arsene Wenger
Too bad Wenger’s brains are fried now
Not as much as Houlier’s, to be fair
The problem with this analogy is that the players are people not cars, they are not the personal property of their club managers. They want to play international football
Ya clubs take have even taken far more greedy positions too with players being asked to miss out on international games even of high importance.
Heres one example with roy keane.
Neymar was also held out of Copa America Centenario by Barcelona apparently having an agreement with Brazil not to call him up.
Lets be honest, I would be surprised if all City’s ‘injured’ players don’t make a miraculous recovery for Saturday.
of all the hysterical metaphors out there this one hits hardest
Papa wengz has spoken!
Shit happens. Players want to play for their country.
I don’t blame them. This sort of thing happens every time there’s a pointless international break.
I’d happily take a few more weeks of break at this point lol
Yeah this is probably the only time in my life I’ve been happy to have the international break.
Definitely can be seen as pointless since we just had a break. But this one the teams in concacaf are playing for births in the upcoming copa America, so I definitely get why they would all turn up for this window. Shitty that he picked up an injury but it’s the risk these players take every time they lace up
there’s a
pointlessinternational break.We can’t not have Euro and FIFA but I take your point.
Play them all at the start of the season, get them out of the way and let’s not interrupt the flow of the Premier league
Weren’t West Ham the only team with 0 injuries till now?
Do Zouma’s cat’s injuries not count?
Zouma is forever nursing a knock. Not an ‘injury’ but he turns like an 18-wheeler.
Also in this one int break we have lost our 1st and second choice striker.
All we have left is Danny Ings in the worst dry spell of his life or a youth prospect. Definitely not the worst situation in the prem, but for sure we’re on a ‘woe is me’ feel right now.
actually kinda surprised to hear Danny Ings’ name again. it’s been years for me
Yeah but you could have lost your 1st choice striker, 2nd choice striker, three wingers, a handful of central midfielders, 1st choice CB, 1st choice LB. West Ham have been very lucky with injuries so far this season
If there’s one player who deserves an injury, it’s Kurt ‘cat kicker’ Zouma.
Him and Aguerd also just need replaced based on play alone. Period.
What I don’t understand is how do Spanish teams assess injuries so quickly, sometimes within hours of the injury, which the PL teams take days if not weeks.
Courtios got injured in pre season, by the end of the match real Madrid has assessed the injury, similar happened with Gavi over the weekend.
Yet EPL teams takes ages
All soft tissue injuries need to be assessed once swelling had gone down to get a full measure.
You can immediately tell what is injured, and get an idea of “bad or not bad” but that’s it.
Also by experience you know “bit of a pull there, that’s 2-3 weeks”.
English teams are probably more hesitant to put timescales on things before they’ve had the scan done after swelling has reduced.
That depends on the injury too. For example, if you see somebody break his leg like Hendrik Larsson or Aaron Ramsey you just assume they will be out for at least the rest of the season, meanwhile with other injuries, like that of Timber, it’s a lot harder to say.
Well there’s no drama in figuring things out right away.
Depends on the injury. A fully ruptured ACL is easy to diagnose and give a timescale on (essentially - out for the season). Most more minor injuries are much harder to timescale, and often need repeated scanning to see the rate of improvement.
Also (I might be wrong in this) in England the manager tends to give updates on injuries when he doesn’t really understand the full picture, whereas in other countries it’s a medical professional - at least that is something Conte complained about while at Spurs.
- at least that is something Conte complained about while at Spurs.
Might be, but Conte definitely liked to keep everyone in the dark about injuries, regardless of what he knew. He would just straight up lie or deny a players’ availability for any tactical advantage.
Interesting, maybe a tactic then
It was an ACL which is effectively determined with hands on testing.