• 25field@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    What do Everton fans actually want? I keep seeing them complaining everywhere. The club broke the rules and got punished. They should be thanking the league for doing it this season because if it happened any other year you’d be 100% relegated. Ridiculous.

    • -InterestingTimes-@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      The punishment to match the crime.

      Some of the mitigating factors to have not been dismissed without fair consideration.

      For one of the guys making the decision not to make recommendations for other teams to claim against us while have close connections to one of those teams and while admitting that he had wasn’t in a position to make that decision.

      There’s more but that’s a start.

    • TheEgyptianScouser@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Maybe punish city? Who have 115 possible breaches or even Chelsea who spent a billion or some stupid number in like two years

      • mauben@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Everyone wants City punished, and much more severely, but you’d think they’d come out and said “Everton are to be punished and we’ve decided to do nothing against City” the way people are going on.

        Someone found guilty in court for something isn’t going to have much luck pleading their innocence because somebody who did something worse hasn’t had their day in court yet.

        Don’t blame Everton for appealing, makes no sense not to try and get the points deduction reduced, but the protesting all feels like a bit of a parody tbh, there’s no corruption in punishing a team who’ve broken the rules, and it shouldn’t be rocket science that a team with 115 charges against them are going to be dealt with later than Everton which is a very open and shut case. Plus Everton admitted their own guilt, City are doing the opposite.

        • beetlesque@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          but you’d think they’d come out and said “Everton are to be punished and we’ve decided to do nothing against City” the way people are going on.

          I think because that is what everyone is expecting to happen.

      • Eggstra@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        They’re two separate incidents.

        One was regarding the once breach which the club admitted and the other 115 which the club is disputing. The initial pre charge investigation for city took around 4 years. I’m sure I saw there was something like 20000 documents regarding the Everton breach. Imagine how many there are for City’s.

        Also, the premier league has done their part. The case is now passed to an independent panel. The prem can’t speed anything up.

    • UnlimitedHegomany@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      It’s not being punished, they have been open and honest about the breaches, they have cooperated.

      It’s the harshness of the punishment that has them up in arms.

      • weetabix__@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Don’t break the rules, you don’t get punished. They have to set a precedent.

        Plenty of EFL clubs have had points deducted for similar breaches.

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          1 year ago

          No club has had 10 points. The maximum previously has been 9. Sheffield Wednesday, who’s case was cited by the independent panel as the reason for a sporting sanction, were docked 6 points. Birmingham had 9 and chose not to appeal because the deduction made no difference to their season. Derby had 9. None of them had mitigating circumstances like a war or a global pandemic or their star player being arrested on the eve of the season.

          • weetabix__@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            19 other clubs didn’t break the rules though? (In the case of city, this may change)

            • PerfectlySculptedToe@alien.topB
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              1 year ago

              I don’t see what that has to do with the fact the punishment being excessive. If you got the death penalty for littering would that be fine cos “millions didn’t break the rules”?

              The punishment is completely unprecedented and completely out of proportion to the rules breach. £6m a season over. That’s the equivalent of one star players wages, such as the wages we had to pay a certain Icelandic midfielder despite the fact he couldn’t play. To suggest there was even close to a 10 point sporting advantage is laughable.

    • Simba-xiv@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Best time for them too they have enough time and are in good enough form that they shouldn’t be in a relegation scrap.