A debate is currently occurring about if it would be better to scrap VAR now of risk people turning off the sport due to time delays and bizarre decisions VAR Is making.

  • cavapower31@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    VAR needs a review time limit. If you can’t find a reason to overturn in 60 seconds than it isn’t enough to overturn the on field decision.

    The continuous stopping of play is really ruining the flow of the game

  • section4@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I’ve started to don my tin foil hat and wonder if there is some kind of agenda to get certain results. There are too many wrong decisions that EVERYONE else can clearly see differently.

  • MiddleAgeCool@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    It won’t cost the league but it is going to continue causing a problem until they update the rules of the game and learn how to use VAR to enforce them. Right now, most of what we have is geared towards a non VAR world and a subjective decision by the on field ref. That needs to change.

    Personally I think they should take the tennis approach. The captain and manager / coach have 3 (example number) VAR calls they can request per half. If the review shows that the on field decision should be overturned, they keep that call. If the VAR review sides with the referee then they lose a VAR call for that half. Everything else is down to the on field refs with the exception of offsides but only because I think that they could be automatically done in real-time in a similar way we have goal-line technology checking for goals.

    • Alone_Consideration6@alien.topOPB
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      1 year ago

      It would have to be the manager as the captain could be so far from the incident it would take a bit of time for them to get to the players who were closer to be told what everyone thinks. Also cricket and tennis crowds don’t scream for decisions in the way football crowds do.

  • Adam__B@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    VAR is shit. It doesn’t change the fact that refs still make shit calls, and it ruins the flow of the game. It’s been a complete negative on the game.

  • RainbowPenguin1000@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    We literally have more correct decisions now than before VAR. it’s not perfect but do you want 90% correct decisions with VAR or 70% correct decisions without it? The answer should be obvious.

    (I made up the percentages but you get the point)

  • giganticbuzz@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    VAR certainly lowers the entertainment value in the name of the ‘right’ decision. It doesn’t eliminate bad decisions though so not sure it’s really worth it.

    I would personally scrap it but can’t see that happening.

  • WillChef@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    I think what gets lost in the VAR debate is the fact that there were conversations about referees every week before VAR existed. Peoples memory seems to be conveniently short but the amount of howlers refs made took up plenty of airtime 5 years ago

  • Ickyhouse@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Yes. I watch fewer games as a neutral bc I am too frustrated by VAR. I now only watch Arsenal and maybe another game that has a big affect on the top 4. I’d watch more if I wasn’t frustrated with the league so much.

  • FimbongBassist@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Its the refs not listening to VAR that will ruin the PL, every other league and fifa have made VAR work well, only the PL has problems with it and coincidentally its the refs incompetence that is causing the issues

  • pbmadman@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Yes.

    The entire premise “if only the on field decisions were more correct then people would enjoy football more” is completely flawed.

    Maybe, at best, people would complain less, but it doesn’t mean they will watch more or importantly spend more money attending or watching on TV.

    Additionally, what has been completely highlighted is there is a huge amount of referring decisions that nobody can agree on what the right answer is.

    I gave up on the NFL because of how awful replay made it to watch. It became a game within the game. It became a competition ABOUT the rules instead of under the rules.