As a consequence, have a person’s kids taken away? Or should there be any consequences?

****PLEASE READ

I’m straightforward and don’t want to give any ‘fluff’ So I don’t know how else to ask this question without it sounding rage baity.

This isn’t a gotcha or trap to argue with anyone I feel and believe I can learn something of value from people I disagree with. It is interesting to know why you disagree and what reasons make you feel x y and z about things.

I’m here to listen, not judge or throw around name calling or fight with you. You feel the way you do for whatever reason, and I want to know a little more about why you do and that is it.

I would like for everyone to feel confident voicing how they feel about this question. I don’t care if I disagree with you. Fighting with you is not how I’d like to spend my evening. I’m sure you don’t either.

I might ask follow ups like, “Why is it that you feel that way?” Or “can you tell me a little bit more” so I can understand your point of view better. And that’s it.

If that feels too much or you don’t want to. Totally fine. Just ignore my comment to you.

Thanks for your time.

  • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.netEnglish
    2·
    5 months ago

    Could it also just be that many who aren’t really informed and just kinda looking at it from the outside consider hormonal treatments “transitioning?” Up until your comment, I’ve thought that was still a part of it since my sister is trans but all she has done to this point is HRT and psychological therapy and those drugs changed her physical appearance significantly. Is it only considering transitioning when you have surgery?

    • vivavideri@lemmy.world
      6·
      5 months ago

      The whole “transition = surgery” thing is not only bs imo, but also what historically tends to be how usa beaurocratically gatekeeps people, especially in conservative states. They won’t greenlight a change of name/gender on birth certificates without it, for example. Transition starts in different ways, and it all depends on the person. It’s social, mental, and physical, and not always in that order, and not always all of the above. I knew I didn’t want the puberty I got, and didn’t bother really addressing it until my 20s. It’s different for everyone. (Non-binary person here, for context)

      • intensely_human@lemm.ee
        1·
        5 months ago

        Maybe we shouldn’t use the term if it’s so ambiguous, and instead refer to unambiguous things such as surgery, hormone treatment, dressing differently, voice training, etc