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      People are kept in prison without a conviction, for not affording bail. Owing a thousand times the lifetime earnings of other people should at the very least mean all your accounts and holdings are frozen, and you can’t spend anything without getting independent approval every time.

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        The settlement payout is on hold pending his bankruptcy case is why they haven’t done something like this. However, lawyers for the families are in fact trying to have his assets placed in a trust or have the bankruptcy case cancelled outright because of his spending. By design it’s a slow, complicated process where Jones has lots of legal (and illegal) avenues to delay paying. Fortunately Jones is so stupid and outlandish that he’s likely hurting his own case so I wouldn’t be surprised if a judge slaps him with more severe sanctions.

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          his bankruptcy case

          The fact that he can simultaneously have a bankruptcy case and spend nearly six figures in a single month is absolutely infuriating.

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      Welcome to the world of civil court decisions :(

      If it had been a criminal defamation case, then it would be criminally enforcable… but all this really means is “a judge ruled you need to pay” and if you don’t pay, then you could sue them again for not paying, and it just goes in a loop over and over again. I have a friend whose family has been in a loop like this in civil court over a bad real estate venture for decades with someone who simply ignores the rulings.

      It hangs over the head of the person who did it, but in the end it’s mostly just a “it’s on your permanent record” kind of stain which can stop people from working with you and damage your personal life, but it’s not like the kind of people who would work with Alex Jones don’t know who they’re working with.

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          It’s a lot harder with rich people, they typically aren’t reimbursed by traditional means, and they can afford to hire people to obscure your assets with your businesses or trust assets.

          What do you think banks do if you don’t pay your loans?

          They typically take what you put up as collateral, this is why banks typically require some sort of collateral even if the person is wealthy.

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              Yes, and that’s the reason they really don’t hand those out to just anyone, and when they do it’s typically in limited to under 50k.

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                Your comment was about “rich people”. There are plenty of those defaulting on signature loans larger than $50K.

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                  Do you have any sources for that claim? There really isn’t a reason for a bank to lend a significant amount of money via an unsecured loan. Even people like musk and bezos have to levy their stock to secure large loans.

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        Seems to me that failing to pay a proper court ordered civil case should be a crime, at least in the case where you’re just ignoring the court order, not where you can’t actually pay.

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      The ruling meant nothing. The guy is on the air now calling the Maui fire a false flag.

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      which is why people want to be rich. it’s way bigger benefit than the money.

      people think about all the maga types that are ‘one day millionaires’. nah, it’s not about being rich for money, it’s about they back a guy who does the stuff they wish they could personally do. like be rabidly racist in public without consequence

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        ppp loans were/are the best example. Handout billions citizens with zero accountability.

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          Forgive some rich asshole who took out 5 false PPP loans? Mmm okay

          Forgive your neighbors student debt they’ve been chipping away at for 10 years? Fuck that why should they get anything?!

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      It’s why these rich people back the GOP. The tax breaks are real but the consequences of social policies won’t affect them when they can fly wherever, put their kids in private schools and escape any social damage.

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    One of the people he owes millions of dollars to, Erica Lafferty, had to do a Kickstarter for a cancer treatment just so she has a better chance of not fucking dying. She still hasn’t seen a dime from Alex “I’m the Debil” Jones.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/jg5m9b/alex-jones-owes-her-millions-of-dollars-she-has-to-crowdfund-her-cancer-treatment-on-gofundme

    Shout out to Knowledge Fight and the work the boys have been putting in to expose and debunk Alex Jones’ constant stream of lies.

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    One of the people he owes money to is a cancer patient who has to crowd fund her treatments

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      At least trash bags have a purpose. His only purpose is to provide a gender neutral bathroom once he’s in the grave.

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      They somehow wrote in monthly “spousal maintenance” or similar payments in the prenup. It’s weird, but legal and enforceable in many states.

      Jones probably chooses to try and keep some money in the family by sending it to his wife. I don’t really know if there’s a debtor hierarchy for this sort of thing, but until somebody challenges it, he’s going to keep doing it.

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      I’d like to see what those people spend all that money on.

      I mean I luckily don’t often have trouble making ends meet, but apart from buying a place to live in, I don’t know how they can spend that much. I currently have to spend a lot because of renovation work, but I suspect that’s not the reason. In normal times, my “big” spends would be… maybe big home appliances, or vacations (that’s a European thing)… If I went really wild, I could maybe conceive of spending… 15 000€ in a month (not that I could really afford it, but at least I could find stuff to do it).

      Beyond that, I just don’t have any ideas.

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    “I mean, I’m a straight-up guy. I’m a do-good in Mayberry RFD.”

    Lying little shit.