oldie meme but needed to bring this back due to recent incidents 😭

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    2 hours ago

    I’m convinced that most people don’t read anything before sharing their opinion. An opinion with zero relevance or weight is absolutely useless.

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      i can’t speak to the frequency but the tone is definitely different when it happens here compared to on reddit, probably influenced by the demographic and field of interest differences. the ml roots of the place really have echoed throughout the tone of the space, so most of the arguments have a really cynical, high alert, almost superstitious affect to them that i never really encountered on reddit. (some random account i thought i was cool with is trying to like psychoanalyze my recent posts to find my true intentions? i gave up on that convo)

      your mileage may vary, of course!

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    I think it can be important to see the intent behind words and ask for clarifications. Oftentimes people are not direct about their opinions.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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      yuh, totally! i even experienced an example of your counterexample recently https://lemmy.cafe/post/10752342/8934173

      egg on my face, i guess i worded a meme so badly it gave 180 degrees the opposite impression (to some). was super thankful to this user for being transparent and helping me identify what part to edit.

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    TBF, I understand this annoying kind of ‘reading into it’. at the same time, if someone starts dropping dogwhistles or starts dancing around something in a convo, i am definitely gonna read into that shit.

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        3 hours ago

        Oh sorry I was making a reference to Xavier: Renegade Angel, where Xavier somehow misinterprets the phrase “Checkmate” to be a proposition for sex, from a clone of himself. (One of those… “Did I watch this at 3am one night or was that a fever dream?” shows)

    • :3 3: :3 3: :3 3: :3@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      This is anywhere, period. You can do that with letters, you can do that with speeches, or in casual conversations.

      And you’re not always wrong about it either.

      If you’ve played Disco Elysium, “Welcome to Revachol”. If you haven’t, play it. It’s an amazing game

  • socsa@piefed.social
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    11 hours ago

    Me: “I like pancakes”

    Lemmy: “Only a shitlib western imperialist would think that. Read more Lenin.”

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      11 hours ago

      Me: “I like waffles”

      Lemmy: “HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GO MY LIFE WITHOUT PANCAKES YOU OPPRESSIVE INSENSITIVE FUCK”

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    12 hours ago

    What…. This is on par with any kind of internet discourse. It’s pretty much why I hardly ever post prior to Lemmy. It doesn’t matter how well articulated the post, SOMEONE will find the need to correct or clarify unnecessarily.

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      11 hours ago

      it’s really sad because i take great pride and pleasure from reading other people’s thoughts and posts. but when i try to give back, it’s immediately jumped on by dogpilers and “oh you actually meant something else…” people. and when i do the bare minimum to defend myself, they slap back with the “okay buddy, sure” and downvote my defense so it’s invisible to other readers.

      needless to say my blocklist is nearing 100 users.

      • can@sh.itjust.works
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        and downvote my defense so it’s invisible to other readers.

        Lemmy isn’t an endless torrent of comments. Even downvoted ones get reached.

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          6 hours ago

          hmm i honestly just don’t understand what the post is trying to say. it’s a bit unclear to me but im sorry there was confusion and hard feelings going on

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              see i agree with that statement when written out like that. the post doesn’t really do anything to get me to that notion on its own though.

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                Hm. Maybe it was too subtle? Cunk is explaining why “trolls pretending to be trans” is supposed to be a problem on Lemmy, using her usual brand of accidentally telling it like it is. Lemmy only has a “troll problem” because Lemmy users hate trans people. No trans hate, no troll problem. If everyone respected trans people, nobody would be getting called a troll. If anyone actually tried to troll that way, they’d be met with acceptance and have no power.

                • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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                  3 hours ago

                  hmmm try workshopping different ways to express this thought, i’m quite lost sorry :(

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    -“Russia should not invade a sovereign country, murder its citizens and deport their children.”

    -“Umm, actually, the US were doing crimes in Syria and you should not support them.”

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      But by contrast

      “We need to negotiate an end to the war on Ukraine.”

      “Oh so you want to let Russia kill all Ukrainians?”

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        And then some people comment:

        “Yes, we should allow Russia to cleanse the Ukraine. I’m being nuanced, I swear!”

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          We’re allowing endless war right now, which means fighting to the last Ukrainian. All the aid we give them is meant to keep the war going as long as possible, not to help Ukraine actually win.

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    Prior to the US election, there were many people that did this exact thing- only it was “oh yeah? Well… you support genocide!

    They’re rarely here anymore. Which is what was predicted that typically warranted their response to begin with.

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      Literally I see all the same names and sometimes still even saying the same things though mostly not cause there is other things to talk about.

      You aren’t seeing it cause you aren’t engaging in hourly political threads because of an upcoming election. It’s disingenuous to say the conversation has disappeared just because you aren’t participating in it anymore.