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Apparently saying [some stuff] is now against the rules too even though they never told us
Lemmy.ml enacts censorship in this manner as well, as too does Midwest.social. But there are so very many other instances that do not, making the former easy to avoid while being able to engage with a ton of content:-).
.world actively removes Luigi posts. Lemmy.ml does not.
Recent example: https://lemmy.world/comment/15689396
Lemmy.ml enacts censorship in this manner as well
I was talking about censorship in general, but you might be right specifically about Luigi mentions on those instances, I would not know.
There are whole entire communities dedicated to discussion of this effect - e.g. !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works.
Your example removed comment is fair, although done by a community mod rather than as the OP article here suggests done without the Reddit sub mods even being able to see the comments prior to removal. Then again, Lemmy.World is rather authoritian on the spectrum. You can always move your account to some other instance that you prefer better btw, like lemmy.dbzer0.com if you want a more anarchist experience or slrpnk.net for communism.
The beauty of Lemmy is not that we are a so-called “free speech platform” - bc we are definitely NOT that! - but rather that we can easily shift over to somewhere else if need be, even spin up our very own instance (that one takes resources, time, and technical knowledge).
For example, I’ve given up on most of the largest communities on Lemmy.world, most of the time, and subscribe rather to smaller versions elsewhere.
I was a 12 year Redditor, with nearly 1 million Karma, so I was a major contributor for over a decade, yet I was recently perma-banned for repeating a perfectly normal anti-Trump/ anti-Insurrection opinion that I had previously stated numerous times with no warnings. Once Trump was elected, I was PERMANENTLY banned the next time I stated that opinion.
Ohanian has announced that he wants to buy TikTok, and everyone knows that TikTok’s new American owner will be personally chosen by Krasnov, so hell want make the Sociopathic Oligarchs compete like dancing monkeys. Only those who have followed his orders, smooched his fat ass, and paid sufficient bribes will be considered. So they are combing through Reddit and banning anyone who might hurt HitlerPig’s feelings.
At first I wasn’t happy about the much smaller comment sections on Lemmy, but then I realized that it also isn’t flooded with bots, trolls, endless stupid terrible puns, and overmoderation.
Welcome to Lemmy, here are a few pointers to help you settle in
this is happening on tiktok too. I got a violation warning for criticizing tiktok on tiktok. They said I was “bullying.” This is some social media shit that is happening across platforms. I know I am not making this up in my head.
I was just banned from Reddit for promoting Lemmy and upvoting anti-Trump comments. No joke 😂 It finally happened
Christ on a bike. At first I thought people weren’t being truthful when they said they were banned for miniscule things but there’s just so many of you. It’s unbelievable
My guess is they want clean and aligned data to train AI. They’ll save time and money by getting people in line early, or banning those that don’t follow their rules.
I think this is precisely it.
It’s a good sign actually. They’re scared! It means the discourse can, and will, make a difference.
That’s because ‘Spez’ (Spaz?) or whatever felt the fear. He knows he’s being a shithead and probably believes that someone will be gunning for him if the rethoric is allowed to grow. It’s a fearful bid for self-preservation.
He got paid 200 million or someshit to implement this garbage. Reddit users have put in so much time on the site adding data to feed AI, but it has alot of shit posts too. Now it’ll be full of yuppies trying not to get banned so they don’t have to use the fediverse. Reddit was better when it wasn’t making profits for shareholder at all costs.
We honestly need a tracker for him similar to !iselonmuskdeadyet@lemmy.world
One of my old burner accounts was banned. Because I said we should throw shit at Reddit HQ. Go walk your dog and save a wet one. Then take a walk by the office.
o__o
a website that ostensibly prides itself on giving its users and communities a platform for free speech
lol come on now
What even is “free speech”?
Does that mean I can post a magnet link to a Pirates of The Carribean movie?
I personally don’t consider any platform “free speech” unless I can roleplay Captain Jack Sparrow. 🏴☠️
Good a metric as any
Free speech in the US covers literally anything besides direct threats.
Cool, lemmy test it:
Link to Pirates of the Caribbean (the 3rd movie): magnet:?xt=urn:btih:976CE4DA9AC1CDC032B854449541D3EA367C076D&dn=Pirates%20of%20the%20Caribbean%3A%20At%20World’s%20End%20(2007)%201080p%20BrRip%20x264&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.bittor.pw%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fpublic.popcorn-tracker.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.dler.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337%2Fannounce
Oh shit its lemmy.world… oh well, see y’all in the mod logs 👀
o7
Free speech in the US covers literally anything besides direct threats.
That is not true. Some examples are listed here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions
MAGA style ‘free speech’ where we’re all free to have the opinions of right wing christian bigots forced onto us but speaking out against right wing christian bigots is ‘hate speech’ or ‘wishing harm’ or whatever other fucking excuse they can come up with.
Speaking out against right wing Christian bigots is literal persecution. Who would’ve thought that one of the greatest majorities living in the Freest Country on Earth would be so ever oppressed. uwu
Well said
And permabanning them for making anti-Nazi statements. Soon it will just be bots upvoting content created by other bots. Waste of electricity.
Just read the article came here to post it and lookie here. Yeah man absolutely disgusting. I came over a few days ago after getting the 7 day ban for the exact things stated in the article. But then I told the Reddit team some colorful words, and they decided to permanently banned me. Fucking bootlickers
colorful words
I guess it makes sense that phaders are no longer a well known thing, but I still expected to get some relevant results when I searched for that to see if I remembered the word correctly.
Maybe I did misremember it.
Yeah fuck Reddit. It was a great platform once. Now it’s dogshit. The leadership is visionless and obsessed with monetization, finally deciding to kill the golden goose
It’s so short sighted, I can’t get my head round it. Why are they doing this to themselves
Welcome! Hope you enjoy yourself here!
Thank you!
I got an upvote warning. That’s why I’m here
Same. Threaten to ban me? I’ll just make it easy for you.
Ditto. 11 years on Reddit.
You might find it a little weird being replied too instead of being shadow banned. But it’s mostly how we roll here. Freedom of speech on corpoland is impossible but on a proper federated instance is actual freedom.
The r/PublicFreakout team suggested that because of this public scrutiny, from both shareholders and government-linked figures like Musk, "Reddit is under serious pressure to get its userbase under control” and imposing whatever haphazard measures it can to accomplish this.
Lmao. This is currently the top post on /r/all. How’s that control working out for you Spez?
The serious pressure:
It would be funny if we made one thread of praise for Luigi, and fill it with replies to all get banned at the same time. A huge drop in users all of a sudden, sounds fun.
Just found out half of everything I ever did on the site was shadow banned. Looking into ways to mass delete my history.
Where do I sign up for the exodus post?
There are scripts you can run (there’s a few people have posted on GitHub) that will do one better.
If you mass delete all your posts, Reddit can detect that and just undelete everything. I haven’t seen evidence of that happening, but that’s why people wrote those scripts so maybe there’s something to it.
What those scripts will do is go and edit everything post and comment you’ve ever submitted and replace it with gibberish generated content. That effectively poisons your history in Reddit so the poor AI training runs have a bad time.
How do you know? I’m curious to see how my old accounts might be shadpwbanned. Is there a tool that makes it easy to tell or something?
Thanks.
Holy shit, it’s so many. Days apart, so I’d guess like half my comments in the last few months? I stopped scrolling.
Som of them I can assume why. The discussion might be about gendered experiences and I’d use a word like ‘sexism’, ‘rape’ or ‘bitch’ in intellectual discussion. Bots can’t know the difference and might think it’s harassment (or not ad-friendly).
But so many of them are informative responses to questions in subs like TooAfraidToAsk. Sex, relationships, escaping abuse. Most of them are long comments discussing controversial topics in a nuanced, analytical way. Almost all of them are correcting misinformation, providing empathetic context, or teaching somebody who asked for help.
Shadowbanning comments removes the user’s ability to appeal. Jesus, I hope some of these people still managed to get the help they needed.
Literally the only things I still posted there were supposed to answer people’s questions and instruct. If I can’t warn an 18yr boy that his relationship sounds unhealthy and recommend resources to him, there’s no fucking point me being there.
Thanks for the link. I’ve got stuff to think about.
Sounds exactly like my experience going through the shadowbanned comments. I understood a few of them (like my recent comments suggesting Lemmy). But others were exactly like what you described. They were comments I spent an hour mulling over at times to get them just right with the right nuance and resources. So sorry that this was happening to you too.
Btw, for anyone mistrusting this tool, logging out and viewing things as public or from an incognito browser window should show the shadow banned comments as “removed”. Obviously difficult to do for large scales, but that’s why there’s a tool I guess.
Oh count me in
I’ve never regretted deleting my Reddit (paid) account. And every day brings more confirmation I did the right thing.
You paid for a Reddit account? I was on there for 11 years and I don’t recall an option to pay for an account. (I probably just ignored it… Was it an ad-free thing?)
You could pay for a “gold” account that unlocked a few different features that could also be unlocked by using something like Reddit Enhancement Suite and a few Gold-only subreddits.
You could pay $6/month to get rid of ads, which I did for a while.
uBlock Origin does that for free
I’m just glad there’s a broader discussion about it, this is exactly what we need.
Got banned multipe times for saying things like ‘Lorena bobbit’ or ‘federal workers shouldn’t take their jobs back if they get rehired’ so…guess we’ll see how long it’ll take ya’ll to get sick of me…😅