• PeteZa@lemm.ee
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    I am pretty sick of the Democrats bullshit, but I’m even more sick of the Republicans bullshit.

    I hate it here.

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    My god! You mean they attached a bomb collar around her neck and said if she didn’t comply they would detonate it?

    Wait, they didn’t do anything of the sort? Well, sounds like they didn’t force her to do anything and the only thing stopping her from speaking out was her own spineless cowardice.

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    Like they were ever going to.

    If she was going to do something different to what the party wants, she’d never have been their nominee to start with.

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    Color me surprised that the Democrats have as much blame for our current situation as the Republicans. Nobody, NOBODY, wanted to return to normal; they wanted real change and the best they got was state-sponsored financing for tech companies and unequal economic policies

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    Sounds like she’s a bitch. You’re campaign already started who gives a fuck what Joe Biden wants. Imo it’s good she didn’t win because if she could be that easily controlled then it’s better she stay on the sidelines.

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    Wow, so if true this implies that in the Democratic party even the women running for president has to do what the big man says. Hope this is false.

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      It’s definitely not false, it’s the playbook all of the political giants have been running for very many years now.

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        Even this seems far fetched. Why would they risk something like that in an election that had so much hanging on it.

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          They were already hanging the future of the country on an old man who struggled to stay awake through press conferences.

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          I’m convinced that the DNC isn’t worried about winning any more races than they have to do that they survive as a political entity. Just going off the push the minority leaders have been making and the stream of emails and phone calls I get, as someone registered independent.

          I see and hear nothing about actual policy change or progressivism from the names in the critical positions, and a lot about donations to “help us win next time, guys, for real this time!”

          My senators (both women, both dems), haven’t actually responded to any of my calls, emails, or letters asking for their stances or plans for change. I have got several form responses that end with a call for donations, though. 🤷

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          Yes. As much as the Dems insist “This is a critical juncture, and we need to unite”, they mean “You need to unite behind whatever we say you need to do”.

          See post-election: The only thing the Dems want to do is wear matching outfits, rather than vote “No”.

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    Hillary was going to continue Obamas policies, more or less. its purely sexism why both female candidates never won, sprinkled a little racism.

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      Or, only people with certain beliefs have the backing/money to get to the top of a US political party.

      They didn’t win because their policies don’t reflect the worker base.

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    Oh? Pulling a “Republican”? My wife made me do it? Wasn’t my fault? Attempting to distance herself so she can make a run for office again.

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      As a liberal male from CA; she’s just not likeable. She gives off the energy of that high strung person everyone’s trying to avoid talking to at the cookout.

      Then again Donald Trump gives off that creepy conspiracy theorist pedo vibe that you’d also avoid and the right loves him.

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      Yeah, seriously. She’s an adult. She could have just said “Thanks Joe, now go away.” What could he have done? Fired her?

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    If anyone wants some good rage material, watch the Pod Save America interview with Harris staffers

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      Omg, only 15 mins in and I can’t listen this anymore. When she said “finally turn the page”, maaaaan. Did she wrote all Kamala’s speeches or smth? And again, instead of talking what was wrong, they just say that during a race their point is was to remind how bad it 3as during Trumps first presidency. Not what people are complaining about RIGHT NOW, but rather about how bad the orange man is. He is, we know. But that is not a solid and the only base to run on. There are much more serious issues in US than orange man bad which went undressed. And I am not even form US.

      They could win by running Healthcare revamp, education revamp and tax revamp. But all these things are going against their sponsors interests. Us now is a fail state. Let us hope 2028 will be an actual page turn with fresh minds in the race.

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    She was elected, not appointed. She could say and do what she wanted and theres not much Biden could have done about it.

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              She was not elected to the the presidential candidate for 2024, she was anointed by the party without an open primary.

              If you can’t have a conversation without resorting to character attacks, that says a lot about your (lack of) character.

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                By the time Biden dropped out, it was one month to the DNC which would select a candidate. There was no time to run a primary, and they were actively attempting to prevent what happened at the last brokered convention which resulted in utter chaos:

                https://youtu.be/sDwKyoSmhow

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                  We needed “utter chaos” at the convention, and didn’t get it. That convention needed to drown out the spectacle of the donvict, and draw in bored and disillusioned voters to participate.

                  It didn’t. They were trying to avoid a “Bernie Bros” scenario that couldn’t have occurred because we didn’t have months to fall in love with a particular candidate.

                  It sucked out what little life remained in the campaign, and gave us the most boring presidential race of my lifetime.

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                  Yes there was still time to run a primary.

                  Besides, Biden should have dropped from the race many months prior, or better yet not run again at all as he promised during his 2020 campaign.

                  Harris and other DNC members shouldn’t have tried to gaslight us about Biden’s health during all that time; they really took us for a bunch of idiots, which most certainly didn’t help their case.

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    She is her own person and has to live with the consequences of her choices like everybody else. It’s all in the past now and just a footnote in history.

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    Honestly this behavior is going to keep getting highlighted from Biden because he was an absolute stubborn idiot. He had polling showing him losing to Trump with over 400 electoral votes for MONTHS before dropping out. He blamed his family for staying in as long as he did, obviously it was him or what was left of him.

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      more like the megadonors were starting to steer away from biden and harris.

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      History will not look kindly on Biden for fucking over his one job of stopping Trump. Didn’t arrest him, didn’t defeat him, didn’t stop most of the Jan 6 protestors, didn’t go after the enablers of his actions, didn’t really stop anything Trump did to avoid debt and jail and we ended up with him for Round 2, Even Worse This Time.

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        100% agreement. He should have arrested Agent Krasnov and his henchmen on the first day of his presidency, and detained them in isolation without bail or access to the media, until their trials were resolved. If he had done that, Krasnov and his Gang would be in prison right now, instead of the White House.

        Instead Biden appointed a weakass Republican as his AG who gave him a 2 year head start to run out the clock.

        The Dems had the perfect chance to defend our country from the MAGA scourge, but they totally abdicated their responsibility. It will be 100 times harder to take it back now, and I don’t see it happening without violence.

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          i felt while he did introduce some good policies, hes much more conservative than obama. dint replace dejoy, and added his supporters in the BOG? allowed to have trump have all the air-time for 4 years straight? im guessing they needed biden to draw the conservative leaning voters that wernt entirely maga? not to mention garland who is a gop SHILL TOO.

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            his decision to not fire humpty dumpty dejoy was one of the first red flags I noticed months into his presidency.

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        Look at democrats now. Still doing absolutely nothing. Even if they won they still wouldn’t have stopped Trump or Musk. They’d probably just stand aside if there was another Jan 6.

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      Nah, I think we should run Biden one more time. Surely, it’ll be different this time! /s

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      I want to tell myself that there’s no way in hell they would let this happen, let alone make it happen.

      Then I remember it’s the DNC.

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        I don’t think this is even close to possible. She has removed herself from public view for a reason. On a personal level, she’s done. If she had any intentions to run for any kind of office, she would have emerged by now as an opposition leader.

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        Kamala or Buttigeig, you can bet on it.

        Seriously, go to Vegas. At least you’ll make money on the end of the world.

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          Buttigeig is likely going to run given that he is giving up his chance at a Senate seat.

          I feel like Walz is going to run as well. He’s been showing up in national media a lot and seems to be becoming the face of the opposition.

          Newsom seems like he’s going to run as well, but he’s been making terrible choices recently.

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            Buttigieg has made it clear that he is not running for office and is looking forward to playing support over the next four years.

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            Newsom seems like he’s going to run as well, but he’s been making terrible choices recently.

            Yeah, he’s trying to become the preordained nominee by making choices party leadership likes.

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              Yup. If we don’t de-throne establishment leaders in 2026 I’m afraid that this is the way we are going to go. And as a CA I’ve mostly been alright with Newsom’s government, but he is absolutely not the guy for this moment in time in terms of the presidency.

              Insert shameless plug for Saikat Chakrabarti, former AOC campaign manager and Chief of Staff who is running against Nancy Pelosi in the 2026 election. For those looking for a way to make a difference, supporting this guy’s bid and making him famous is a good, tangible way to do it.

              We need more AOCs and fewer Pelosis.

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              This guy gets it. Speaking as a Californian, this is exactly, precisely what’s happening. I don’t use this term a lot because it resurfaces trauma of not realizing I was posting in a thread on Hexbear, but Newsom is straight up the textbook definition of a shitlib. He’s always kinda been a shitlib, with a ratio of one kinda okay decision to like four disappointing, mediocre, and shitty decisions that make the wealthy and corporate donors happy. Now that he sees a path to the presidency laid bare, he’s fully embracing his shitlib instincts. Please, for the love of Buddha, don’t vote for him in the primary.

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                Please, for the love of Buddha, don’t vote for him in the primary.

                As though primary votes matter. The party successfully argued in court that they don’t.

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                  You can always count on Ensign_Crab to twist the knife one last time. Gotta make sure they’re demoralized.

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            Yeah, Walz refuses to announce (like they always do) but you don’t make the amount of noise he is without gearing up for something. I don’t think there’s any way he doesn’t run, and currently he might even be my favorite of those that I’m confident will run. We’ve got a while before the next presidential election though, so anything could happen and I can’t really be bothered thinking about.

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          I’d bet they’ll try to run Blinken or Shapiro. Harris cant bring in campaign donations, and donations are all the DNC cares about.

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            I’m betting Mark Cuban. They (I believe, based on the sudden interest in him as a “Progressive billionaire” on various social media platforms, and in person talks) that the solution to a Reich Wing Oligarch is a different Reich Wing Oligarch, but Blue this time.

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            I feel like they have really poor name recognition. And while Shapiro looks great and presidential, Blinkin has a real “off” kind of look to him.

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              They’re also both in a murder and land left theft cult, and you can be sure that they will use any influence they get to further entangle the US in that, at astronomical cost to the US.

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      She’s free to run again, but this time she has to win the primary. And that’s unlikely. It’s rare in modern times for someone to lose a Presidential election and get another shot at it, Nixon and Trump are the only two in over a hundred years.