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I doubt we’ll ever be offered a real opt-out option.
Instead I’m encouraged by the development of poison pills for the AI that are non-consensually harvesting human art (Glaze and Nightshade) and music (HarmonyCloak).
Remind me in 3 days.
Although poison pills are only so effective since it’s a cat and mouse game, and they only really work for a specific version of a model, with other models working around it.
But do Glaze, Nightshade, and HarmonyCloak really work to prevent that information from being used? Because at first, it may be effective. But then they’ll find ways around those barriers, and that software will have to be updated, but only the one with the most money will win.
AI is a venture capital money pit, and they are struggling to monetize before the hype dies out.
If the poison pills work as intended, investors will stop investing “creative” AI when the new models stop getting better (and sometimes get worse) because they’re running out of clean content to steal.
AI has been around for many years, dating back to the 1960s. It’s had its AI winters and AI summers, but now it seems we’re in an AI spring.
But the amount of poisoned data is minuscule compared to the data that isn’t poisoned. As for data, what data are we referring to: everything in general or just data that a human can understand?
I’ve deleted pretty much all social media, I’m down to only Lemmy. I only use my home PC for gaming, like CiV or cities skylines or search engines for things like travel plans. I’m trying to be as offline as possible because I don’t believe there’s any other way to opt out and I don’t believe there ever will be. Like opting out of the internet is practically impossible, AI will get to this point as well
I think it may he more productive to get people to use alternative ai products that are foss and/or respect privacy.
You got downvoted because Lemmy users like knee jerk reactions and think that you can unmake a technology or idea. You can’t, Ai is here and it’s forever now. Best we can do is find ways to live with it and like you said, reward those who use it ethically. The Lemmy idea that Ai should be banned and not used is so unrealistic
You seem to misunderstand the ire;
AI in its current state has existed for over a decade. Watson used ML algorithms to beat Jeopardy by answering natural language questions in 2011. But techbros have gotten ahold of it and decided that copyright rules don’t apply to them and now the cat is out of the bag?!? From the outside it looks like bootlicking for the same bullshit that told us we would be using blockchain to process mortgages in 10 years… 10 years ago. AI isn’t just here to stay it’s been here for 70 years.
ML technology has existed for a while, but it’s wild to claim that the technology pre-2020 is the same. A breakthrough happened.
Breakthroughs are more or less of a myth. Everything is iterative.
Agreed. The only thing that has really changed is how much hardware we can throw at it. ML has existed more or less since the 60s.
Breakthroughs are not a myth. They still happen even when the process is iterative. That page even explains it. The advent of the GAN (2014-2018), which got overtaken by transformers in around 2017 for which GPTs and Diffusion models later got developed on. More hardware is what allowed those technologies to work better and bigger but without those breakthroughs you still wouldnt have the AI boom of today.
I posted it because you claimed none of that happened before 2020.
I never claimed anything besides that breakthroughs did happen since you claimed, which is objectively true. You claimed very concretely that AI was the same for over a decade, aka it was the same in at least 2015 if I’m being charitable, all of these things were researched in the last 7-8 years and only became the products as we know them in the last 5 years. (Aka 2020)
You don’t need AI. There are enough porn sites with real humans.
And lots of hentai for stuff that is humanly impossible
Is it really though? I haven’t touched it since the very early days of slop ai. That was before I learned of how awful it is to real people
They don’t mean directly, i guarantee that companies, service providers, etc that you are with do indeed use Ai. That’s what I took the headline to mean. Some facet of everyone’s life uses Ai now
Hell AI has been making fully automated kill-chain decisions for 5 years now. Yes it’s in everything.
It should be opt in
Ah yes. The “freedom” the usa has spread all over its country and other nations… Yes of course we must protect that freedom that is ofc a freedom for people to avoid getting owned by giant corporations. We must protect the freedom of giant corporations to not give us ai if they want to. I don’t disagree but think people are more important
Nope, screw opt-out. OPT-IN ONLY, i want it to be disabled by default.
You can opt-out by deleting your accounts on corporate social networks.
Can you? When all businesses start using AI for customer interaction…
Haha, no you can’t.
The problem is not the tool. It’s the inability to use the tool without a third party provider.
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If AI is going to be crammed down our throats can we at least be able to hold it (aka the companies pushing it) liable for providing blatantly false information? At least then they’d have incentive to provide accurate information instead of just authoritative information.
As much as you can hold a computer manufacturer responsible for buggy software.
I very much understand wanting to have a say against our data being freely harvested for AI training. But this article’s call for a general opt-out of interacting with AI seems a bit regressive. Many aspects of this and other discussions about the “AI revolution” remind me about the Mitchell and Web skit on the start of the bronze age: https://youtu.be/nyu4u3VZYaQ
If there was an ai to detect ai would you use it?
Yes. That is actually an ideal function of ethical AI. I’m not against AI in regards to things that is is actually beneficial towards and where it can be used as a tool for understanding, I just don’t like it being used as a thief’s tool pretending to be a paintbrush or a typewriter. There are good and ethical uses for AI, art is not one of them.
It is not hard. One just has to be committed enough.
AI is everywhere now, but having the choice to opt out matters. Sometimes, using tools lik Instant Ink isn’t about AI it’s just about saving time and making printing easier.
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