I always though “jaywalking” was one of those US-only concepts. It certainly doesn’t exist here¹ and I’ve never heard it from anybody else.
1 - We do have a fine for crossing a street close to the pedestrian crossing but not on it. It was applied at least once, and I know because it made the news. The person that received it contested it and didn’t pay.
In France you’re supposed to use crosswalks but drivers are always responsible if an accident occurs. Most drivers stop to let pedestrian across on crosswalks.
Except in Paris where drivers are entirely unaware of the concept of crosswalks. So most crosswalks have dedicated traffic lights, and those that don’t might as well not exist.
Spent the better part of a week in naples earlier this year.
In naples you have crossing points but no lights as far as i can tell. traffic is constant so you like kind of have to walk out in traffic and hope it either stops or drives/rides around you.
Welcome to Japan is one of our closest allies because we kidnapped their militarynuked their asses are really close friends. Lots of cultural exchange happening cause of that.
It’s a thing in Australia but only within a certain distance of a pedestrian crossing like in your example. I think that’s pretty fair, there are some notorious crossings I’ve seen where jaywalkers regularly endanger themselves and fuck up the flow of traffic when there’s a crossing literally right there. For most streets though…yeah it doesn’t make sense imo
Living in Chofu, Tokyo and can confirm I see it everyday. The one exception I’ve learned is if there’s children in view, people (seemingly) will not jaywalk as to not set a bad example. There’s a bad apple every now and then but this largely holds up from my observation.
Also people will wait for someone to break the ice and jaywalk first, then a bunch will follow lolol.
How is the link relevant? Was there something specific or is it just general? I was wondering if this tweet uses some specific phrase mentioned in the link but can’t seem to find it.
It’s a fascinating read, but I didn’t quite get the connection either. I can see how the quote can be understood as “submission of the individual to the State”, but that’s far from the only way I can see to take it.
It could certainly be a dogwhistle, but I’m also curious about the connection.
And, just to sort of add on, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have shared it. In case anyone interprets it sort of sarcastically like “UM WHY’D YOU INCLUDE THIS? HOW IS IT RELEVANT???”
Fixed 🔗.
Tl;dr the streets were payed by the tax payers, it belongs to tax payers, and it should be used as the tax payers see fit.
If Japanese folks want to walk on them, then do so, without a fascist mythos of a downfall that will not exist. Streets are meant to be travelled, by stroller or auto. If not, I’m strolling a hike on the wilderness.
I’m criticizing from a Japanese historical context, as a Japanese person. Should I stop you from jaywalking streets tax payers paid for to use as they see fit?
In the old man scenario, if I had concern for a foreigner strolling the street, I wouldn’t stop her, but say: “The crosswalk is over there, mam. Don’t lose your life over cagers.”
This kind of feels like one of those weird mythologized Japanese culture posts
Japanese people jaywalk all the time - especially if you’re in a rural residential neighborhood.
I always though “jaywalking” was one of those US-only concepts. It certainly doesn’t exist here¹ and I’ve never heard it from anybody else.
1 - We do have a fine for crossing a street close to the pedestrian crossing but not on it. It was applied at least once, and I know because it made the news. The person that received it contested it and didn’t pay.
In France you’re supposed to use crosswalks but drivers are always responsible if an accident occurs. Most drivers stop to let pedestrian across on crosswalks.
Except in Paris where drivers are entirely unaware of the concept of crosswalks. So most crosswalks have dedicated traffic lights, and those that don’t might as well not exist.
Spent the better part of a week in naples earlier this year.
In naples you have crossing points but no lights as far as i can tell. traffic is constant so you like kind of have to walk out in traffic and hope it either stops or drives/rides around you.
Was an interesting adjustment i had to make
Are drivers in Paris even aware of the sidewalks? I was almost run over by a motorcycle on a sidewalk in Paris 20 years ago
That was not my experience living in Paris. I’d say the drivers were not amazing but still a little better than average for a big city.
Welcome to Japan is one of our closest allies because we
kidnapped their militarynuked their assesare really close friends. Lots of cultural exchange happening cause of that.I mean… If any society has ever deserved to be nuked, it would have been imperial Japan.
Also, they and Germany mainly became our friends post ww2 because all three countries bonded over hating communist more than anything.
Unfortunately it exists in Poland too.
It’s a thing in Australia but only within a certain distance of a pedestrian crossing like in your example. I think that’s pretty fair, there are some notorious crossings I’ve seen where jaywalkers regularly endanger themselves and fuck up the flow of traffic when there’s a crossing literally right there. For most streets though…yeah it doesn’t make sense imo
Good, fuck traffic, walking should always have priority.
Jaywalking is known in every country with somewhat big streets.
You will get fined if you jaywalk across a highway in every country that has them.
Living in Chofu, Tokyo and can confirm I see it everyday. The one exception I’ve learned is if there’s children in view, people (seemingly) will not jaywalk as to not set a bad example. There’s a bad apple every now and then but this largely holds up from my observation.
Also people will wait for someone to break the ice and jaywalk first, then a bunch will follow lolol.
It’s worse, it’s a fascist dogwhistle.
Hello Kitty with a rifle implies Maoist-tank.
How is the link relevant? Was there something specific or is it just general? I was wondering if this tweet uses some specific phrase mentioned in the link but can’t seem to find it.
It’s a fascinating read, but I didn’t quite get the connection either. I can see how the quote can be understood as “submission of the individual to the State”, but that’s far from the only way I can see to take it.
It could certainly be a dogwhistle, but I’m also curious about the connection.
And, just to sort of add on, I’m not saying they shouldn’t have shared it. In case anyone interprets it sort of sarcastically like “UM WHY’D YOU INCLUDE THIS? HOW IS IT RELEVANT???”
Fixed 🔗.
Tl;dr the streets were payed by the tax payers, it belongs to tax payers, and it should be used as the tax payers see fit. If Japanese folks want to walk on them, then do so, without a fascist mythos of a downfall that will not exist. Streets are meant to be travelled, by stroller or auto. If not, I’m strolling a hike on the wilderness.
But I’m extremely worried now, lemmy isn’t being intolerant to the intolerant. There was zero reason to be stopped at all. How lemmy is not getting that, is extremely worrying.
Multiple comments are criticizing this. Most that it is fake and yours that it is a dog whistle. I don’t see that as tolerating intolerance.
I’m criticizing from a Japanese historical context, as a Japanese person. Should I stop you from jaywalking streets tax payers paid for to use as they see fit?
In the old man scenario, if I had concern for a foreigner strolling the street, I wouldn’t stop her, but say: “The crosswalk is over there, mam. Don’t lose your life over cagers.”
my daughter loves hello kitty, where do I get hello kitty with a rifle merch?
di☭
Traffic rules are literally 1984
“And then they came for the protestors, and because I was an automobile owner, I ignored it.” ← your whistle is right here.
Cager scum.
Lmao
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