We are languishing in 10th, 8 points behind ‘struggling’ Man United. Defense is leaking goals, attack is largely misfiring and players are losing discipline.

The mentality has also become like that of a mid-table team. Nothing in and around the club screams world class at the moment.

I just don’t find many differences between Chelsea and say, Crystal Palace (apart from the wages and all). As fans, should we also have a mid-table mindset? Satisfied with draws against the big boys and finishing the season with 45-50 points?

  • fanatic_tarantula@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The thing with man u though is they haven’t really looked very good in many games this season. Having a GD of 0 and 24 points is quite mental. So are they a good side who’s grinding out results when playing poorly. Or are the results papering over the cracks.

    They’ve only played 4 decent teams and lost all of them while struggling to beat the likes of sheff utd, Burnley and luton

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      10 months ago

      They’ve won so many games in the last minute. They’ve looked terrible in every performance. People have this idea that they’re just out of form and because they are still winning, it means when they are in form they will be winning even more. That’s just not how it works, you return to your average over time. Right now their results make them look better than they are and they will start drawing/losing more until Ten Hag becomes a better manager or Rashford does that thing where he pretends he’s a good player for 10 games

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        10 months ago

        I love how people just ignore injury crises when it’s United that’s affected. When Liverpool have an injury crisis it’s on the News at Ten and people are holding vigils calling them heroes for not getting relegated.

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          10 months ago

          To be fair, most of the teams in the league have an injury crisis at the moment. The scheduling last year really did a number on a lot of players.

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        10 months ago

        The equal but opposite argument is “champions find a way to win when they’re not playing well.” I agree that form is more than just results, but the KPI of form is points.

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          10 months ago

          That refers to top players/teams playing beneath their best. ManU aren’t a top team and don’t have top players. They were previously known for getting the most out of average players, whereas they are now known for getting the least out of decent players.