We are languishing in 10th, 8 points behind ‘struggling’ Man United. Defense is leaking goals, attack is largely misfiring and players are losing discipline.
The mentality has also become like that of a mid-table team. Nothing in and around the club screams world class at the moment.
I just don’t find many differences between Chelsea and say, Crystal Palace (apart from the wages and all). As fans, should we also have a mid-table mindset? Satisfied with draws against the big boys and finishing the season with 45-50 points?
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As an Arsenal fan this is not really a place where I see them. I consider them very strong and with huge potential. You were comparing them with United… every single position in United squad is much older, with midfield and defenders being almost decade apart. Not something United can fix over one transfer window or during the season.
But Chelsea has players from 18-23 years old in every single position that are considered world class talents and will grow into it, even Mudryk whos getting a lot of hate is only 22. The average age of their squad is 23 years, while having freaking Thiago Silva at almost 40 in the squad.
Palmer is amazing for his age, he will lead this team very far, having impact right off. The defense of Gusto, Colwill, james, Fofana, Badiashille… the oldest of them is James at 23. All of them can hold their own in the PL.
Midfield? Lavia, Enzo, Caicedo, Gallagher, Palmer… oldest of them Gallagher at 23.
Attackers? Jackson, Mudryk, Borja, Madueke… oldest 22 once again.
If they manage to keep them all in the squad and will enforce in the ATT area, as that seems as the weaker point and they will be very well set off.
But Chelsea has players from 18-23 years old in every single position that are considered world class talents and will grow into it, even Mudryk whos getting a lot of hate is only 22.
This is a fucking joke right?
Their players aren’t “world class talents” in the slightest.
I am talking about the young ones, yes, they do have two 26 and 28 year olds respectively. What does that have to do with anything?
You’re trying to argue that these are “world class talents” but none of them have had a single good season, let alone a world class one. Most of them haven’t even had a world class game yet.
You can have your opinion. If you as a world class see Ronaldo level of player at sub 20 you delusional. You do you.
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Always was. Welcome home.
There’s been a lot of movement at the club over the past couple years. The roster is also VERY young. Give these guys so time to develop and build chemistry and Chelsea will be back in the top 4, challenging for the league.
Poch’s project is likely for everyone to have patience and trust the process. They look like a 10th place team (checks table) yes they are a 10th place team. If your expecting a full turn around like that (I know the first year under Conte they won the league), then slow down the expectations. People that call for Poch to get the sack are absolutely mental to think that.
Yes and no. After last 3 transfer windows and huge sums spent ppl have weird expectetion that we r gonna be title contender. But what football and club fans fail to see (or just dont want to see) that we: 1) bought talent not skill/imidiate impact 2) we sold our team and are starting basically from scratch
As a Chelsea fan i kinda get the sentiment “we are Chelsea, we have to be great especially with so much money spend”, but i just cant fathom why are ppl failing to see what rly happend. We r almost youngest squad in PL (without Silva we would be the youngest) and it happend almost overnight this summer when deadwood left. Now we got new team and actually new club managment. How are we suppose to contest anything? Especially with todays competition. Theres like 8 teams that are europe cups worthy. And its not like we have team full of highest quality seasond players. We have bunch of youngsters that gonna be epic if everything is gonna go great … which not always happen …
What actually happend, is that we demote ouselfs into 7-8th position team with potential to be top 5 in next 2 years. Will it happend? Dunno, its so risky … if it will hapend, UTD gonna be jealus cause its what they need, if it wont happend UTD gonna be enjoying their looooong term restart and saing how dumb we r that we tried to solve our problems in one window instead of 5.
One more thing … can we stop using that “money spent” nonsense? 1) we sold a looot of ppl and made a lot of money for this spending 2) if u sum up money spent and their wager and / by years of contract its not rly that big deal and most of the players are on minimum wages beceause of their age and status. Its risky, might ruin everyone involved but it is the way it is …so stop deluding yourself with Chelsea have to be top … they spend bilion they need trophies … we r no way near them … we r gonna be unconsistent for a while.
My rant is over, i know its unpopular, so just downvote me and lets get it over with.
It only gets worse bro
I’d say no. Yes, literally, you are mid-table right now (and have been for a while and could still be for a while) but being a mid-table club would mean a smaller fanbase, a smaller stadium, less cash in and less cash out, less attractiveness for new signings, fewer big names etc. And to your last point, no. Chelsea fans and indeed players and employees will not be satisfied with mid-table-like football results: it is a massive under-performance.
Now? past couple seasons
The prem is stronger these days, so it’s not bad for a team like Chelsea to be mid-table during a rebuild. The real question is if they’re still mid-table two or three seasons from now, that’s when you know the status of the club has seriously changed.
One thing is certain, they will keep throwing money at the problem, and continue to overpay for players.
Talent wise? No. That’s evident in our spending and realistically you see it when you watch Chelsea play right now. They will have top level teams chasing them at times with the level of talent in the squad and can compete with the best in the league at their best. Consistency is the issue right now, which is to be expected when you have you have the youngest squad in the league. If these guys reach a point where they can play at their best every week, it is definitely not a mid table team.
Firmly. They have 16 points from a possible 39, and look who’ve they’ve beaten - Luton, Fulham, and Burnley. Yes they beat Spurs who completely imploded, and pulled off dogged draws against Liverpool, Arsenal, and City, but those look like outliers compared to their other performances.
So much criticism has been launched at United who are 8 points clear of Chelsea, but United are playing in the CL, they aren’t doing well in that competition but they’ve had a similarly horrible injury crisis to navigate as Chelsea while playing mid week and are in a respectable position.
I’m stunned that Chelsea, having finished 12th last season, squandered their soft opening schedule. Obviously we still have a little over 2/3 of the season left but do Chelsea look like they can overcome a now 12 point gap between them and Villa? There might be 5 CL spots this season but I don’t see Chelsea challenging for one.
Lets get something straight, we where the better team against liverpool and arsenal.
Tottenham was pretty dominant first 17 min, but between 17 and 37 chelsea where dominating 11-11.
As for quality of play chelsea are 3rd in possession, 2nd in big chances created, 4-6th in xg-points.
There has been more outliers against in terms of results then for chelsea.
Only teams that created more quality chances then chelsea was brentford and newcastle (that includes 5 preason games)
Chelseas issue is mentality and clinicality, same arsenal been suffering from over a decade (and the main reason I see liverpool like a more likly titlecandidate then arsenal.
That beeing said, chelsea is a good example why to much change aint good for you.
If they ran the takeover properly (sporting people in before 400m spent) and do change over 3 years instead of 18 months.
Yep they are wildly inconsistent and a team that spends 1 bil and hasn’t got a proper striker who scores is wild.
Over time money will win over lesser clubs, the question is only how long it takes.
Chelsea fans, more importantly the board needs to be patient. I think they’ve got a nice roster with talented young players and Poch is a solid manager.
They should make sure their players continue to develop and form their chemistry. Next year with a signing like Osimhen, Chelsea should be good enough to compete for higher positions again.