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  • I’d argue that football is a sport where players reactions aren’t that limited in all honest. You wouldn’t see half the stuff players do with referees in sports like Rugby or Cricket.

    When players go over the top then they might get fines - I think United and Arsenal have one for crowding the referee this season. Haaland probably won’t be punished for his tweet - players have done worse and it’s been fine so it’s just paper speculation.




  • I think you’re 100% right that he was controlling but equally completely wrong about it always being about himself.

    He was controlling because he cared - Beckham and other players were kids in an era where players were earning more and more than their counterparts and often away from home. Ferguson wanted them to not lose control, to have stable families to support them and be professional. He knew what could happen in his own playing career and the fall out from Rangers too.

    In the documentary they said about how he contacted him directly after the red card and how he supported him. Would you not say that was love?

    Fergie had his vices and he made mistakes with some players but by and large I think the way he handled players and the whole club was very positive and why so many players still think of him so highly.


  • You mean bigger clubs get more attention than others? Who’d have known.

    But the Arsenal situation is still a topic to discuss - it’s not just a pop at Arsenal but rather than an interesting area. Ramsdale was generally praised last year so them getting another player of Raya’s ilk generally doesn’t happen all too often. Arteta then said he would rotate them much like he would rotate outfield players and said he’d thought about changing them in game - however that hasn’t happened and Raya has had a couple of iffy moments so people have questioned his choices.

    These things happen to all the big clubs.





  • Are infrastructure improvements like new stadiums not exempt from the FFP calculations? Pretty sure they were last I checked.

    They are but the biggest debate in this case is whether interest of a loan they took out should be deductible or not. It was originally deducted last year but the PL changed their position as they assumed it was used for the stadium when it had not been.

    Everton argue that they would never have taken out this loan if it weren’t for the stadium and that Moshiri would have paid of it anyway. The PL argue that the interest of the loans shouldn’t be deducted because the the stadium had been funded by interest free loans by Moshiri - it also noted that when taking out the loan the club had said it would not be used on the stadium or players but working capital and the independent panel sided with them.



  • I know you did say it ‘could’ but a lot of these are quite extreme hypotheticals.

    Big players, from these clubs e.g. Haaland, De Bruyne, Guimaraes will leave and would likely join teams from abroad.

    They could leave, some might stay, they could also stay within the country as they have their lives set up there.

    • Likes of La Liga or Serie A chairman will be in UEFA’s ear about this, potentiall causing them to ban English Teams

    Unlikely - UEFA need English teams as well. A whole ban wouldn’t happen.

    The PL will be seen by many as a corrupt league like Serie A in mid 2000’s and will have a knock on affect in which players may choose to sign for clubs like AC Milan or Bayern Munich ahead of English teams like Man United or Liverpool

    Maybe it would have it’s image damaged but players would still come to teams as they pay well. Players are always happy to play for the teams with big wages.

    Honestly don’t think any of this would happen other than players leaving relegated clubs. Also Newcastle aren’t part of these discussions at all.





  • Said it earlier this season but they don’t have enough to stay up for me. They arguably have a weaker squad overall than they did last year and whilst they have a bit about them it’s just not enough.

    Have battled a lot going against them and financial difficulties so credit to them but there’s just a big difference in terms of quality to them and a lot of PL teams.



  • A significant percentage (majority) of premier league players are not white

    I don’t know how entirely relevant it is given the league is represented by nations globally. I’d say it’s more wanting it to represent the country and the whole footballing pyramid rather than a small subsection of the top league as referees have to work up the leagues.

    This has been asked though and reports have been written. There’s a lot of black referees in the non league and amateur football compared to the PL and EFL but there’s been accusations of observers being racist or having unconscious biases which limits their progression as one observer marking you down can make it extremely difficult to get through.

    It seems like refereeing is definitely a bit of an old boys club - it was recent made even more aware by David Elleray being appointed head of the referees committee despite being investigated for making racial comments in which he apologised and sent on a equality and diversity training course. He stepped down in 2022 after being investigated again. Apparently he had said to an FA colleague ''You look rather tanned” and “have you been down a coal mine?”.

    But being a referee is fucking difficult and you need to spend years reffing for £20-£30 a game whilst being abused every weekend. There’s no wonder why the overall referee numbers are falling.