Nearly half of all Democrats in the House of Representatives voted Wednesday to cut off US military aid to Israel, a move that underscored a dramatic shift away from the US support the Mideast ally has enjoyed for nearly 60 years.

While House lawmakers ultimately rejected Rep. Thomas Massie’s (R-Ky.) amendment to a national security spending bill that would have eliminated the $3.3 billion in annual foreign military financing provided to Israel’s military, the details of the vote were viewed as an encouraging sign by defenders of Palestine and the rule of law.

Massie and 103 Democrats voted for the measure, while 215 Republicans and 98 Democrats rejected it. The overall tally was 104 for, 314 against, and 10 “present” votes, with 9 absences.

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    The aid was still approved. Not quite seismic yet. Save that for when something is actually accomplished.

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    And all it took were democrats throwing a presidential election and getting ousted in primaries by progressives to get there.

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      And it proves what many have been saying. The primaries are the time for you to cast your protest vote, not the generals.

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        Sorry citizen, your time for self expression and democracy, as materialized by a single vote for one preset option you had no voice towards, in an election rigged by the party brass, has passed. Please go back to being an obedient worker drone. See you in two years, which is plenty often enough for a satisfactory democracy!

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          You (general you, not you personally) can and should express your opinion in other ways as well. It’s just the price / collateral damage that’s far higher in the general election. You’ll express frustration at some issues and sacrifice others in the process, without achieving much.

          You won’t tear down that pyramid by ripping the golden cover off the top. Attack the base, shatter the bricks holding up the corrupt tip, and the whole thing will start shaking.

          Notice that the party brass didn’t throw as much of a tantrum about the lost presidency as they did about the slew of progressives unseating “safe” candidates in primaries. That’s where they actually start to worry.

          Votes need to be a tool for establishing public consensus, but that doesn’t mean they have to be the only tool.

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              Some tools can be appropriated, and some tools will be needed to build a new house. Don’t discard them all.

              Voting alone may not be enough, but it’s a useful way to communicate public opinion. Establishing the consensus that enough people are behind you encourages participation in direct action, and building democratic legitimacy helps make your changes stick.

              You probably need more than votes to achieve change, but you’ll need them to make it last.

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              Furthering the need to improve the system even more.

              Having the Ranked Choice voting system that NYC, Maine, and Alaska have would make it so primaries and even general elections are won by the people that are most representative of their constituents, rather than just corporate backed donors.

              Every state can vote in some form of alternative voting system. It’s such an important change factor that red states have been actively trying to ban Ranked Choice voting.

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        Voting for who you want in the primary is not “protest voting.” It’s simply voting for who you want.

        If the establishment doesn’t wan’t to be democratic about the primary, then that’s on them.

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        I’ll vote for their shitty centrist pick as soon as Schumer apologises for not endorsing or even acknowledging Mamdani after he won the democatic nomination.

        Vote blue no matter who is a two way street buckaroo.

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      Please don’t ignore the nearly invisible work from countless activists nationwide pushing and promoting antizionist candidates. they don’t just come out of nowhere.

      I am really proud of my friends who worked so hard on that. from canvassing to calls to so much work.

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    They’ll only do a brave move when they can be sure it has no chance of ever passing.

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    List of votes.

    Democratic No votes:

    Adams, Alma S. [D-NC]	Democratic	North Carolina	No
    Aguilar, Pete [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Beatty, Joyce [D-OH]	Democratic	Ohio	No
    Bell, Wesley [D-MO]	Democratic	Missouri	No
    Bishop, Sanford D. [D-GA]	Democratic	Georgia	No
    Boyle, Brendan F. [D-PA]	Democratic	Pennsylvania	No
    Budzinski, Nikki [D-IL]	Democratic	Illinois	No
    Case, Ed [D-HI]	Democratic	Hawaii	No
    Casten, Sean [D-IL]	Democratic	Illinois	No
    Castor, Kathy [D-FL]	Democratic	Florida	No
    Cisneros, Gilbert Ray [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Clarke, Yvette D. [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Cleaver, Emanuel [D-MO]	Democratic	Missouri	No
    Clyburn, James E. [D-SC]	Democratic	South Carolina	No
    Cohen, Steve [D-TN]	Democratic	Tennessee	No
    Conaway, Herbert C. [D-NJ]	Democratic	New Jersey	No
    Correa, J. Luis [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Costa, Jim [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Courtney, Joe [D-CT]	Democratic	Connecticut	No
    Craig, Angie [D-MN]	Democratic	Minnesota	No
    Cuellar, Henry [D-TX]	Democratic	Texas	No
    Davids, Sharice [D-KS]	Democratic	Kansas	No
    DeLauro, Rosa L. [D-CT]	Democratic	Connecticut	No
    DelBene, Suzan K. [D-WA]	Democratic	Washington	No
    Espaillat, Adriano [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Fields, Cleo [D-LA]	Democratic	Louisiana	No
    Figures, Shomari [D-AL]	Democratic	Alabama	No
    Fletcher, Lizzie [D-TX]	Democratic	Texas	No
    Foster, Bill [D-IL]	Democratic	Illinois	No
    Frankel, Lois [D-FL]	Democratic	Florida	No
    Gillen, Laura [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Golden, Jared F. [D-ME]	Democratic	Maine	No
    Goldman, Daniel S. [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Gomez, Jimmy [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Gonzalez, Vicente [D-TX]	Democratic	Texas	No
    Gottheimer, Josh [D-NJ]	Democratic	New Jersey	No
    Gray, Adam [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Himes, James A. [D-CT]	Democratic	Connecticut	No
    Hoyer, Steny H. [D-MD]	Democratic	Maryland	No
    Jeffries, Hakeem S. [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Kaptur, Marcy [D-OH]	Democratic	Ohio	No
    Kennedy, Timothy M. [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Krishnamoorthi, Raja [D-IL]	Democratic	Illinois	No
    Landsman, Greg [D-OH]	Democratic	Ohio	No
    Larsen, Rick [D-WA]	Democratic	Washington	No
    Larson, John B. [D-CT]	Democratic	Connecticut	No
    Latimer, George [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Lee, Susie [D-NV]	Democratic	Nevada	No
    Levin, Mike [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Liccardo, Sam T. [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Lieu, Ted [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    McBath, Lucy [D-GA]	Democratic	Georgia	No
    McClain Delaney, April [D-MD]	Democratic	Maryland	No
    McClellan, Jennifer L. [D-VA]	Democratic	Virginia	No
    McDonald Rivet, Kristen [D-MI]	Democratic	Michigan	No
    Meeks, Gregory W. [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Menendez, Robert [D-NJ]	Democratic	New Jersey	No
    Meng, Grace [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Mfume, Kweisi [D-MD]	Democratic	Maryland	No
    Morelle, Joseph D. [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Moskowitz, Jared [D-FL]	Democratic	Florida	No
    Mrvan, Frank J. [D-IN]	Democratic	Indiana	No
    Norcross, Donald [D-NJ]	Democratic	New Jersey	No
    Norton, Eleanor Holmes [D-DC]	Democratic	District of Columbia	No
    Olszewski, Johnny [D-MD]	Democratic	Maryland	No
    Pallone, Frank [D-NJ]	Democratic	New Jersey	No
    Panetta, Jimmy [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Perez, Marie Gluesenkamp [D-WA]	Democratic	Washington	No
    Peters, Scott H. [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Pou, Nellie [D-NJ]	Democratic	New Jersey	No
    Riley, Josh [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Rivas, Luz M. [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Ruiz, Raul [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Schneider, Bradley Scott [D-IL]	Democratic	Illinois	No
    Scholten, Hillary J. [D-MI]	Democratic	Michigan	No
    Schrier, Kim [D-WA]	Democratic	Washington	No
    Sewell, Terri A. [D-AL]	Democratic	Alabama	No
    Sherman, Brad [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Sorensen, Eric [D-IL]	Democratic	Illinois	No
    Soto, Darren [D-FL]	Democratic	Florida	No
    Stanton, Greg [D-AZ]	Democratic	Arizona	No
    Stevens, Haley M. [D-MI]	Democratic	Michigan	No
    Strickland, Marilyn [D-WA]	Democratic	Washington	No
    Subramanyam, Suhas [D-VA]	Democratic	Virginia	No
    Suozzi, Thomas R. [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Sykes, Emilia Strong [D-OH]	Democratic	Ohio	No
    Thanedar, Shri [D-MI]	Democratic	Michigan	No
    Titus, Dina [D-NV]	Democratic	Nevada	No
    Torres, Norma J. [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Torres, Ritchie [D-NY]	Democratic	New York	No
    Vargas, Juan [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Veasey, Marc A. [D-TX]	Democratic	Texas	No
    Vindman, Eugene Simon [D-VA]	Democratic	Virginia	No
    Walkinshaw, James R. [D-VA]	Democratic	Virginia	No
    Wasserman Schultz, Debbie [D-FL]	Democratic	Florida	No
    Whitesides, George [D-CA]	Democratic	California	No
    Williams, Nikema [D-GA]	Democratic	Georgia	No
    Wilson, Frederica S. [D-FL]	Democratic	Florida	No
    
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    All it took was the complete genocide of Palestinians and the destruction of their culture.

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    would have eliminated the $3.3 billion in annual foreign military financing provided to Israel’s military

    That’s fucking insane.

    Anyone who voted in support of this funding has blood on their hands

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    Excellent

    Off topic, but can someone explain when the US has started calling the Middle East “Mideast”? I’ve seen it a few times, never said yet though. Is it just laziness? Because when I think “mideast” I think corn/bible/tornado states east of the Mississippi but west of the Appalachians - y’know, kinda like Midwest but the east of it, below the rust belt, as that would make sense as a name for a US region.

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    Clearly they’ve been told that they are “allowed” to do this since the militaries are getting merged or whatever bullshit is happening next.

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    Because the next step is intertwining the U.S. military with the IOF. So they are inextricably linked. At that point they will receive american military tax dollars, and it will only be labeled as such not “IOF funds”.

    The democrats are bloodthirsty too, do not forget this. They are pulling the wool over your eyes.

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        Oh shit you really addressed and dismantled the content of my comment! Look at you go little fella!

        Pfffffffft pot calling the kettle black much, imperialist nation’s soldiers (such as America) will rape and pillage your country and then make a movie/write a book on how sad and traumatized it made them bombing/shooting/maiming school children.

        The true bootlicker here is you, if you think the democrats will save you you are so fucking naive I don’t even know where to begin. You only want what is best for the imperial core, my heart goes beyond that. Liberals truly believe the “if kamala won we’d be out at brunch”, their care begins and ends with Americans. Not even that, only wealthy americans.

        Please inform me on how Kamala would have saved the Palestinians. How she would have stopped the harvesting of valuable resources from countries the U.S. has impoverished. How she would have halted the unethical Cuban embargo. How the U.S. goverments constant rifling and pillaging of the middle east for itself and Israel would have stopped at her.

        At the very least inform yourself on the very treatlerite boot you gnaw and suckle on before accusing others (this is only a fraction of a fraction of the ferocious behavior from the west):

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuFNHOQ9Oqw

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Orange

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War