Civilians should only be able to buy hand grenades for self defence, as they are very inaccurate, and everybody having them guarantees MAD. Peace achieved
I am sorry, I really cannot possibly understand why a civilian outside of an active conflict zone can possibly need a grenade?
Is that your 4th of July tradition or something?
Hmmm. Never thought of that. On the other hand, I have some foxes problem in my garden. Surely a few well thrown grenades could help. Thank you for opening my eyes! Will lobby for a change in the laws of my land.
Nah, they do not actually live there, they are just browsing every night, shit on my lawn and throw around rubbish if they manage to open the bin.
So I do need a tripwire or two.
Too bad neighbours’ cats are also on a prowl, that is the only thing that limits my demolition urges!
Honestly I have no idea if this is close to being correct but I feel like grenades are similar enough to dynamite which is (I think-again no actual clue) still used for mining and construction. It’d be more problematic to delineate one as a construction tool and one as a death tool so they keep them all under the same umbrella. Again, this comment is 1000% unfounded guessing.
Edit: This I do know, federally legal does not mean legal for everyone! There is a similar procedure to follow for purchasing a silencer and I know a ton of people who have them that 50 miles south accross the PA or OH state line but there is absolutely no legal way or work around for me to legally own a silencer living in NYS.
Well, there is some sense in that. Mining/construction would require special licensing as well for it, and that would be fun to watch a miner or builder using frags to demolish something. )
Silencer is the same to me, as you rightly point out: this is never a self-defence device, there is no conceivable use for one if you are not a certain Bond, J Bond. Who also had a rather specific license!
Silencer is the same to me, as you rightly point out: this is never a self-defence device, there is no conceivable use for one if you are not a certain Bond, J Bond. Who also had a rather specific license!
Uh… shooting without needing hearing protection. They’re plenty common in my area and are often used for hunting or even just target shooting. Not having to wear hearing protection just makes both activities more enjoyable.
Silencers are used for hunting coyote and wild boar that devastate natural balance of ecosystems. Both are hunted at night and rely mostly on smell (for coyotes this is 1000x’s amplified. They can fuckin smell you before you put your boots on to leave the house lol). Silencers allow you to take down multiple nuisances by limiting the area spooked by the gun shot.
My work around is an infrared scope gerririgged on a mount I machined to mount it on my cross bow. Dead silent hunting in the dead of night. Yet to actually kill a yote with it because I have to be 35yds optimally and I can never sit that still for a canine to be oblivious to me to get that close. Won’t stop me tho, I’ts peaceful as fuck in the woods in the middle of th3 night lol.
I saw that. There must be an exception for businesses tho, right? Dont they still blow up buildings when they need to come down?
I didnt look it up till your comment and my original comment was because I assumed it was still used based on the amount of roads I’ve seen on my way through the PA hills or going up to the ADKs where it looks like they drilled through the rocks every 10ft or so and I assumed it was for dynamite loads (giggety) they’d drop in each hole. Maybe they’re just relief cuts tho. Lol someone should google this hahah.
as far as i understand, modern mining explosives are thick slurries (or ANFO) that in some cases aren’t explosive at all in trailer, these are made so at borehole. and even then these need boosters, because a blasting cap won’t be enough to set them off. these boosters are also gels or slurries but this time packaged in waterproof film so they look like sausages. these all are safer, probably cheaper and less toxic than actual dynamite so it’s the modern replacement
there definitely are separate licenses, but this depends on country of course
don’t worry you’re already on all of the important lists
(it’s an obscure reference to one lazerpig’s video when he mentioned that he and his russian boyfriend went on a date which included buying grenades from a corrupt supply officer and throwing them in the forest while drunk)
Civilians should only be able to buy hand grenades for self defence, as they are very inaccurate, and everybody having them guarantees MAD. Peace achieved
Tbf, it’s legal federally in the US. You just have tobpay the $200 tax stamp and wait for ATF approval for each one
What? That’s not true at all. Grenades are classified as “destructive devices” under the National Firearms Act, and illegal for civilians to own.After looking up a different source, I guess I was wrong. You have to pass some enhanced background checks, submit your fingerprints, and pay $200
I am sorry, I really cannot possibly understand why a civilian outside of an active conflict zone can possibly need a grenade? Is that your 4th of July tradition or something?
In practice, nobody really has one. They get covered under “other destructive devices” in the NFA, and the paperwork is a bitch.
Usually disputes between neighbors on who’s supposed to cut the weird patch of grass between their two houses. At least that’s what I use em for
what if there a really scary snake burrowed ??? need boom boom to get rid of danger noodle, theres no other option
Hmmm. Never thought of that. On the other hand, I have some foxes problem in my garden. Surely a few well thrown grenades could help. Thank you for opening my eyes! Will lobby for a change in the laws of my land.
You don’t even need grenades for that, just pour gasoline down the foxhole and toss in a lit match.
Nah, they do not actually live there, they are just browsing every night, shit on my lawn and throw around rubbish if they manage to open the bin. So I do need a tripwire or two. Too bad neighbours’ cats are also on a prowl, that is the only thing that limits my demolition urges!
Fishing
Right after I get rid of snakes and foxes!
Honestly I have no idea if this is close to being correct but I feel like grenades are similar enough to dynamite which is (I think-again no actual clue) still used for mining and construction. It’d be more problematic to delineate one as a construction tool and one as a death tool so they keep them all under the same umbrella. Again, this comment is 1000% unfounded guessing.
Edit: This I do know, federally legal does not mean legal for everyone! There is a similar procedure to follow for purchasing a silencer and I know a ton of people who have them that 50 miles south accross the PA or OH state line but there is absolutely no legal way or work around for me to legally own a silencer living in NYS.
Well, there is some sense in that. Mining/construction would require special licensing as well for it, and that would be fun to watch a miner or builder using frags to demolish something. )
Silencer is the same to me, as you rightly point out: this is never a self-defence device, there is no conceivable use for one if you are not a certain Bond, J Bond. Who also had a rather specific license!
Uh… shooting without needing hearing protection. They’re plenty common in my area and are often used for hunting or even just target shooting. Not having to wear hearing protection just makes both activities more enjoyable.
Yup silencers don’t really live up to the hollywood hype, but they keep the tinitis from coming todayis
A fair point, thanks! TIL on Lemmy.
Silencers are used for hunting coyote and wild boar that devastate natural balance of ecosystems. Both are hunted at night and rely mostly on smell (for coyotes this is 1000x’s amplified. They can fuckin smell you before you put your boots on to leave the house lol). Silencers allow you to take down multiple nuisances by limiting the area spooked by the gun shot.
My work around is an infrared scope gerririgged on a mount I machined to mount it on my cross bow. Dead silent hunting in the dead of night. Yet to actually kill a yote with it because I have to be 35yds optimally and I can never sit that still for a canine to be oblivious to me to get that close. Won’t stop me tho, I’ts peaceful as fuck in the woods in the middle of th3 night lol.
mining explosives need to throw zero steel around and can be as unwieldy as it gets. good luck throwing jelly at enemy
actual dynamite isn’t even available anymore unless you’re time traveler from 70+ years ago or wile e coyote
I saw that. There must be an exception for businesses tho, right? Dont they still blow up buildings when they need to come down?
I didnt look it up till your comment and my original comment was because I assumed it was still used based on the amount of roads I’ve seen on my way through the PA hills or going up to the ADKs where it looks like they drilled through the rocks every 10ft or so and I assumed it was for dynamite loads (giggety) they’d drop in each hole. Maybe they’re just relief cuts tho. Lol someone should google this hahah.
as far as i understand, modern mining explosives are thick slurries (or ANFO) that in some cases aren’t explosive at all in trailer, these are made so at borehole. and even then these need boosters, because a blasting cap won’t be enough to set them off. these boosters are also gels or slurries but this time packaged in waterproof film so they look like sausages. these all are safer, probably cheaper and less toxic than actual dynamite so it’s the modern replacement
there definitely are separate licenses, but this depends on country of course
don’t worry you’re already on all of the important lists
to throw them in the (uninhabitated) forest on a date, of course
I’ll bite, we certainly have different dating preferences! Who exactly one should date in an uninhabited forest? )
(it’s an obscure reference to one lazerpig’s video when he mentioned that he and his russian boyfriend went on a date which included buying grenades from a corrupt supply officer and throwing them in the forest while drunk)
<$50 grenade, $200 tax stamp lol
does it work for artillery too?
Sounds like you need to buy nicer grenades
How dare you, Pyotr hooks me up with only the best surplus.
Yes, actually. Grenades, artillery, tank shells, and anything that goes boom is classified as a “destructive device” by the ATF.
That means the same treatment as automatics: registration, background check, and a $200 tax stamp per unit.
But the drone is tax free! Checkmate, government!
Like a string of black cats going off.