I am enjoying the popcorn as conservatives gaslight and pretend like it’s nothing, as if they weren’t standing behind it the whole fucking time.
But people lap it up, like they believe it.
How are we as species supposed to act towards such individuals?
This is good news, while it wouldn’t be enough to sway diehards, it will sway the undecided who don’t want to see the nation become a shell of its former self. Conservatives who are trying to distance themselves from their most desired plan will make mistakes and screw up enough to hopefully get caught out. Here’s hoping at least.
Not enough people get triggered enough by maga policies though. Enough are concerned about abortion maybe but transgender rights, marijuana, Ukraine, climate change, nah. I fear that too many people would rather vote for the candidate everyone wrongly belives is going to improve the economy than any of that stuff, not that I agree that’s the right choice.
This “don’t want bad things to happen to you? Simply don’t be trans/gay/poor/different” mentality that so many people believe in needs to stop.
It seems that people are already aware that Biden is damned old, and their response to the media’s cries have been, “No shit, Sherlock, but what’s this 2025 thing?”
I hope that continues.
Make sure it always says “Trump’s”
The Heritage Foundation plans to enact what they can as they can. Notice the Supreme Court?
I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make. Do you think I am not aware of the heritage Foundation? Are you just trying to chime in?
It’s not just Trump’s. This is not going away. That’s my point
It’s a concerted effort spanning almost 70 years and I agree, they’re not going away at all.
It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).”
The rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set about to undo all the trade, tax, and housing policies, labor and consumer rights, everything, he’d done. They very much want a return to the gilded age with themselves as the robber barons and gentry. They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.
I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. We only have soap, ballot, bullet, and jury boxes and obviously the soapbox has limited impact.
Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
edit: tl;dr the shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again because they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people and they’re winning
It is more effective to educate conservatives on why white supremacy is wrong. Buying a few little pew pews isn’t going to stop them. Maybe buy you some time to slip out the back.
Perhaps demand they craft legislation on media outlets. Have you noticed the History channel plays nothing about history anymore and is all reality tv?
Of course we should try to reach out and educate, the soap box and the ballot box are always the first and second choices; but you sound like someone with nothing to lose. What happens when the attempt at “education” fails? When the attempt to speak civilly is met with red-faced screaming? When you try to use reason and they use an armed mob.
I wonder if anyone just tried educating Hitler about how antisemitism is wrong.
I’m in a deep red state. I have no interest in letting a caravan of MAGAts come into the singular liberal, “crime-infested blue city” within 200 miles to Rittenhouse some “groomers” because their guy gets to be dictator “for a day.”
Their hate is fueled by manufactured propaganda, an outrage machine controlled by billionaires. The media needs to be regulated immediately and some Monopolies need to be broken up. There is no better time than now
That’s fair. Let’s label it Trump for now, and slot in the next conservative as needed.
For the purposes of the election, yes, it is trump’s
This is important. I notice a big push here in Trump country to distance him from it. Lots of ardent followers posting sharing stuff that suggests Project 2025 is nothing more than a “conservative wish list” that comes out every cycle. Nothing to see here! And that it has nothing to do with official policy. I suppose we’re to ignore the recent egregious decisions handed down by SCOTUS and Trump himself repeatedly saying he’d be a dictator on day 1 -specifically to enact these goals?
Well technically it iant nor can the plan claim affiliation or support for any candidate. But its pretry clear to anyone with a brain that it does align very well with his ideology.
A kind reminder from Germany: If anyone tells that they “didn’t know what they were getting into” and that “it didn’t seem as bad, they cant really mean it” and “time in power will pacify them and they won’t push through with their claims” - we already had this story and these excuses. I hope that we all can prevent the fascists from getting into power. I really don’t want stuff I’ve read in history books to repeat in my lifetime. The more people know about P2025, the better - but to be honest I fear that most will just ignore it and go on with their day.
It’s already being dismissed as a hoax. The articles about “gay furry activists” leaking the info have allowed people on the right to claim it’s just nonsense, and Trump would never do such things to them.
The people already on the right largely can’t be saved
Do you think the media purposely uses the phrase “gay furry activist” to undermine his credibility so people won’t take him seriously?
The worst part is, we already had this shitstain in power before. This would be like if Hitler had been appointed chancellor for 4 years and was still chosen again later.
He clearly abused his power while in office before and was only kept in check by his idiocy and by people around him who understood that there is/was limits to presidential power. With SCOTUS basically giving the president kingly powers to do fuck all, the gloves are off and that shit-stain can just do whatever the fuck he wants. It’s so aggravating the number of people in power enabling possibly the worst person in human history to behave even more irresponsibly and giving into even stupider ideas. And that it’s even this close in polling #s makes me think America will deserve whatever happens to it as a result.
America will deserve whatever happens to it as a result
I get why you’d think that, but only the ones who voted for him or didn’t vote for Biden will, because many millions more people will not vote for him - it just won’t matter because of our fucked up electoral system.
I’m hoping I’ll see more stories about this in the mainstream news, along with Dems reminding voters that Republicans said for years that “Roe was settled law,” and “they’re not going to overturn Roe.” Ending their statements with, “when someone tells you who they are, believe them.”
It’s catching up to hawk tuah’s peak search hits.
And it’s still trending up! A shimmer of hope!
Who?
Because no one is answering you, “hawk tuah” is the nickname for a lady who got stopped by one of those annoying YouTubers/tiktokkers doing the old nighttime talk show “man on the street” gig, stopping pedestrians and asking them stupid questions in the hopes of getting an equally stupid or funny answer.
The question was something like “what’s the most whatever thing you can do in bed with a guy that something something” or whatever, I forget the specific question because it reminded me of the crap you see on the cover of cosmopolitan magazine.
Anyway, this gal says the functional equivalent of “spit on his dick(to lube him up)” only she says it like “you gotta give it that HAWK TUAH” making a sound like she’s Hocking up a huge lugey and spitting it out in the downward direction.
She is now known as hawk tuah and I think someone is trying to put her on reality TV.
Considering that we have three seasons of a show called “F-Boy Island” on broadcast television, I’m not very suprised someone wants to make her a star
TBF no one watches broadcast television anymore, so they’ll stick anything on the airwaves to fill the schedule.
It’s either that, or go the way of MTV and show nothing but endless reruns of one show. I don’t know why they haven’t renamed it “The Rob Dyrdek Network” by now and called it a day.
Prob gotta add the alt spellings like tua and hock, etc to get the full view count
With how widespread the memes are now, I doubt it’d be significant
Trump forgot about the Streisand Effect.
He was a very effective user of it, and now the tables have turned.
Hopefully it helps for the US elections, from a concerned neighbor of theirs.
With the reach of a fashist US, we all would be neighbours…
Yes. A full-on fascist dictatorship with the power of the US is unprecedented in world history. I don’t want to find out how it goes.
there’s a reason why republicans and the corporate media are desperate to try and push president biden out of the race.
As opposed to everyone else, who hope dearly that the 25th will be invoked if he’s elected. Though I doubt anyone wanted the first woman president to get the job without being elected, it will warm my heart if Hillary Clinton is alive to see the first woman president and it isn’t a Clinton.
This so the single best reason I’ve ever heard to get Harris the office… To spite Hilary lol
But what’s the ratio of people finding out more because they liked what they heard vs the ones horrified about it?
This is certainly a concern, but all in all, shining a light on it is a VERY good thing.
We’ll find out in November. I’m going to be watching that female/male divide, that’s for sure.
I want to think that no woman could possibly look at that and approve, but then again, Phyllis Schlafly existed
If you look at D policy positions, they are overwhelmingly popular (when detached from a certain sleepy lil guy).
I think the majority of people searching are bound to find plenty they don’t like
(when detached from a certain sleepy lil guy).
Why would my dog negatively affect the popularity of those policies??
No the sleepy guy that’s addicted to ice cream. Wait, that might also still be your dog.
Known for sniffing women creepily might also apply to the dog…
Those were unreachable Trump supporters to start with. Hopefully it doesn’t motivate them to do anything.
If they look hard enough, even the most staunch of Republicans can find something they won’t like. But they probably also believe Trump when he says he doesn’t know what project 2025 is.
I mean, if most people find out about this and want this… then America is already lost.
Thanks gay furry hackers
I still don’t know if the attention on this is a good or a bad thing
I suspect it’s a good thing. Conservatives don’t search for things that discredit their views. And I doubt their media is playing this up as anything that deserves attention. It’s probably mentioned as a thing to be ignored. I have no factual basis for my suspicions. I could be completely wrong.
my conservative friends and family from the garbage can i grew up in very much like this sort of thing, and probably see it as a justification to vote for sexual dingus trump.
im hoping it will force more democrat voters to go outside.
Conservatives don’t search for things that discredit their view.
I think you’re right here but I think we can all be very much like that. Using trump and conservatives as a reference to what we all do, no one Googles “is trump bad.” No, we already know the answer to what we think about that. Instead, we google something like “trump is the best” which (along with our personalised algorithm, designed to tell us what we want to hear so we keep engaged) tells us all about how trump is the best.
I think one thing that might help anyone who wants to de-program trumpers, along with the parts that are their own fault, they genuinely are victims of the algorithm they’re trapped in. I mean, we all are but right wingers, being right wingers, rarely have the self awareness needed to adjust for it. Theyre amongst the groups most disenfranchised and exploited by these things. It doesn’t absolve them of blame but, imo, its more complicated than a lot of people make out.
we google something like “trump is the best” which (along with our personalised algorithm, designed to tell us what we want to hear so we keep engaged) tells us all about how trump is the best.
Nobody googles anything like that, and googling “is x good/bad?” Isn’t really how you use Google unless you’re researching products or something. This is a lazy attempt at an example.
It seems to me that, if we’re using web searches as an indicator, that those on the left have no problem earnestly researching the answers to questions like “Is transgender healthcare harmful to children?”, or “what are the pros and cons of privatizing x?”, where some of the answers might not perfectly validate our existing worldview, but we still walk away with a nuanced opinion based on what we learned.
Conservatives on the other hand would never even consider asking questions like “are they cutting little boys dicks off because they like the color pink?” or “are half of all murders really committed by Black people?”, they will just believe it in their heart of hearts because they saw memes about it on Truth Social.
In fact, if they did muster the willpower to type such a query into Google, every single article that doesn’t validate them would be declared some sort of leftist hoax, and Google would be blamed as another woke tech company deliberately serving content that challenges a right wing view.
These people are completely brainwashed, and it is no surprise that they heavily trend Christian, since Christianity as an ethos demands that you be able to resist asking questions critical of God, as certain questions are an insult to God. It’s rather trivial to exploit this vulnerability in critical thinking, which is why so many Conservatives seem to have no line between their religious beliefs and their political beliefs, and both sets of beliefs end up being completely fucking unhinged and filled to the brim with magical thinking.
I love how you declared my example to be lazy, only to then make, essentially, the same example again. Dont get me wrong, I’m not saying that I disagree with me.
Yeah, I called you lazy and then said what you attempted to say with better clarity and verbosity.
I said it just fine. The problem is you lack of self awareness and poor social skills.
It’s a good thing, much of the things included are unpopular, even by conservatives
Good thing. Despite how it sometimes feels, most Americans aren’t hateful pieces of shit and don’t support this crap. It’s just hard to get them to go out and vote.
the conservative folks i know don’t see conservative policy as being hateful
Of course not. Nobody thinks they’re the bad guy. It takes an outside perspective to know.
It’s just hard to get them to go out and vote.
it would be a lot easier if the dnc didn’t suppress popular candidates in favor of candidates with decades long histories of conservative bona fides.
People don’t think it’s possible to do all of this. After reading the entire thing, it’s 100% possible, but I don’t think people are seeing this as the end of democracy in the U.S.
Women, minorities, public education, the environment, work reform, social services and even protesting are straight up done. Sounds extreme, but I’m not seeing how you vote yourself out of this after firing everyone and replacing them with people only loyal to the president.
Even if they only succeed in doing a fraction of it, that’s still really fucking bad.
Oh yeah it is. You can’t really vote yourself out of some of that stuff.
Exactly. We’re still affected by Reagan’s policies that were based on this same organization.
I explained it to someone as eating a shard of glass. Even if you have to eat a tiny bit of it, you ate glass and your life is worse.
Much of what Reagan instituted and is still plaguing us was written by this same organization.
Reminder from Hungary: Go and vote for Biden or whoever the democrats will replace him with. Fidesz’es overreach is too big, they destroy everything they don’t like, and nowadays more and more people that were originally scared by the mass shootings and the ease of availability of guns would like us to have that same kind of access. Our only hope is either somehow the biggest allies of Fidesz disappear in one way or another (death, etc.), or the Ukrainians would really sell those weapons on the black market to us the Hungarian citizens.
I remember many art and similar projects die, because Fidesz defunded the art, then their cronies took over everything and only let artists that pushed blatant pro-Fidesz propaganda.
just wait until people start googling why bridges are collapsing, buildings are self demolishing, and people are shitting out their intestines because of the drinking water, thanks to scotus’s deregulate the world and everything in it decision
Which bridge collapsed, other than the one hit by the boat in Baltimore?
They are referring to the recent scotus backflip on the Chevron Deference, which in a really basic summary allows any old judges to make rulings on issues of regulation rather than the relevent government agencies and EXPERTS in the specific field.
If i understand correctly things such as dumping chemicals into environment/drinking water/atmosphere can be determined by some judge in some random county for giant companies operating in their state.thank you, pretty much. the reason most man-made things/structures/vehicles/etc we’re surrounded by are NOT falling apart around us is regulations. all it takes is for corporations to say “i don’t want to spend money on upkeep/maintenance/safety for __________ anymore” because you can bet your bottom dollar they’re not going to cut into their profits to make YOU safe, unless it’s literally the law that they do. if they did, then it wouldn’t have to be the law.
which it basically isn’t anymore
