Well my US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust so I’m actually feeling really well prepared for this section, the trick is not to go along with genocide if your country is supporting it
Go to school in the south, spend months on the minutiae of 1830s trade law and constitutional construction of enumerated powers, then WHOOP! We’re in 1914, being dragged in to WW1 against our will!
I went to (an otherwise okay, but still a catholic) school in Connecticut and I learned that we won the Vietnam War.
My dad was the right age, but neither he, nor his close family members or friends (nor my mother’s) were drafted. My friends’ parents were younger, so I didn’t personally know any Vietnam vets well enough for them to talk to me about it, and I didn’t think to doubt it. I didn’t find out until college (it was rightfully embarrassing, I was a libertarian arguing for the USA’s right to “bring democracy” to Iraq).
3rd party has literally zero chance of winning. a vote for 3rd party is a vote going straight into the trash. 3rd party voters are not making a “statement.” they are not “morally superior,” nor is anyone applauding them for their “principles.” in fact, the only people that actually like 3rd party voters are republicans, because they’re actively helping trump win. everyone else is either laughing at you or just shaking their head
also spoiler alert: trump will be orders of magnitude worse for palestine than ANYONE on this planet. yes, including netanyoohoo.
you do you pal
edit: i want to add: i voted for jill stein in 2016 because trump was a pathetic joke even then, but i just didn’t much care for hillary. just like i don’t much care for kamala
I didn’t mention third parties and will not be casting a vote for president at all as I believe the problem is regime wide. That said, 3rd parties aren’t the problem the problem is democrats promised they would vote democrat no matter what and they took your word for it and decided to ignore public opinion and international law and international courts and basic human decency and now you’re complicit in a genocide just like the german people were.
I don’t understand it, either. I’ve seen comics and comments about how not voting for a genocidal candidate might get trans people killed, while children are actively being blown apart and incinerated in hospital beds, currently, as we type.
I don’t like that trans people have to live in fear. I would like them to be as comfortable in their communities as the whitest, straightest, most christian dude in Texas is in his community.
Any argument for or against the current candidates that is laced with hyperbolic slippery slopes cannot overcome the actual murdering of an entire people that’s unfolding in front of us all.
I cannot buy into any argument that plays on the lesser of two evils, as we would still have to choose an evil.
Let’s be clear that this isn’t an easy world we live in, but I refuse to support a literal ethnic purge.
Has it happened? Are trans actively being bombed in their hospital beds? Are they being piled in the streets and run over with bulldozers, dead and alive?
To claim that trans are the victims of genocide is disingenuous and minimizes the experience of the people currently experiencing genocide.
I am not discounting the potential threat against trans in america, but Palestinians are being shot, burned, and bombed right now. Entire families, gone.
Have you listened to a single fucking thing the right has been nearly shouting from the rooftops that they’re going to do? Have you read Project 2025? Or are you just willfully ignorant, just tuning out whenever they start talking about things that won’t affect you personally?
Oh and hey let’s not forget a national abortion ban, mass deportations, and an almost certain recession if not depression. Those are also on the table with a second Trump term, which fucksticks like you are helping ensure.
With all respect to Palestinians and their plight, we need to worry about our country and the possible fall of our democracy before we can start fixing the problems on the other side of the fucking globe. Problems which, under Trump, would only get worse. If you genuinely think he won’t give Israel carte blanche to flatten Palestine, you’re dumber than I thought. Oh, and if you think that genocide is bad, wait til he gives Russia Ukraine on a silver platter. Ever heard of the Holodomor?
Well my US public school system spent 75% of history class and 25% of English class on the Holocaust so I’m actually feeling really well prepared for this section, the trick is not to go along with genocide if your country is supporting it
Go to school in the south, spend months on the minutiae of 1830s trade law and constitutional construction of enumerated powers, then WHOOP! We’re in 1914, being dragged in to WW1 against our will!
I went to (an otherwise okay, but still a catholic) school in Connecticut and I learned that we won the Vietnam War.
My dad was the right age, but neither he, nor his close family members or friends (nor my mother’s) were drafted. My friends’ parents were younger, so I didn’t personally know any Vietnam vets well enough for them to talk to me about it, and I didn’t think to doubt it. I didn’t find out until college (it was rightfully embarrassing, I was a libertarian arguing for the USA’s right to “bring democracy” to Iraq).
Honestly, a bit of a canard given how much of a Dixiecrat eugenics loving imperialist shit Woodrow Wilson was.
Neo-Confederates bit hard on the Zimmerman Telegram and were some of the most enthusiastic WW1 hawks.
The Zimmerman telegram was the story that Germany was trying to convince Mexico to attack the US right? I’m deep in my memory for this one lol
How many of your classmates are Zionists? By comparison, how many are enthusiastic about First Nations civil liberties or reparations for Slavery?
mods, please deal with this
LOL the “vote 3rd party” crowd really is trying their adorable damnedest aren’t they
8 yearold me would not have been able to grasp your position and 30 yearold me can’t either. Guess I’m too soft to compromise on ethnic cleansing.
3rd party has literally zero chance of winning. a vote for 3rd party is a vote going straight into the trash. 3rd party voters are not making a “statement.” they are not “morally superior,” nor is anyone applauding them for their “principles.” in fact, the only people that actually like 3rd party voters are republicans, because they’re actively helping trump win. everyone else is either laughing at you or just shaking their head
also spoiler alert: trump will be orders of magnitude worse for palestine than ANYONE on this planet. yes, including netanyoohoo.
you do you pal
edit: i want to add: i voted for jill stein in 2016 because trump was a pathetic joke even then, but i just didn’t much care for hillary. just like i don’t much care for kamala
NEVER. AGAIN.
EVER.
I didn’t mention third parties and will not be casting a vote for president at all as I believe the problem is regime wide. That said, 3rd parties aren’t the problem the problem is democrats promised they would vote democrat no matter what and they took your word for it and decided to ignore public opinion and international law and international courts and basic human decency and now you’re complicit in a genocide just like the german people were.
Not to worry, if the GOP gets their way that’s the end goal in the US anyway
Nothing Would Fundamentally Change
“Nothing would fundamentally change” is superior to “everything would get a fuck-ton worse.”
Not when your baseline is 2019.
I don’t understand it, either. I’ve seen comics and comments about how not voting for a genocidal candidate might get trans people killed, while children are actively being blown apart and incinerated in hospital beds, currently, as we type.
I don’t like that trans people have to live in fear. I would like them to be as comfortable in their communities as the whitest, straightest, most christian dude in Texas is in his community.
Any argument for or against the current candidates that is laced with hyperbolic slippery slopes cannot overcome the actual murdering of an entire people that’s unfolding in front of us all.
I cannot buy into any argument that plays on the lesser of two evils, as we would still have to choose an evil.
Let’s be clear that this isn’t an easy world we live in, but I refuse to support a literal ethnic purge.
…dude you’re writing off a genocide against me with “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” shit
You are actively advocating for people to be complicit in not preventing another genocide.
Has it happened? Are trans actively being bombed in their hospital beds? Are they being piled in the streets and run over with bulldozers, dead and alive?
To claim that trans are the victims of genocide is disingenuous and minimizes the experience of the people currently experiencing genocide.
I am not discounting the potential threat against trans in america, but Palestinians are being shot, burned, and bombed right now. Entire families, gone.
Have you listened to a single fucking thing the right has been nearly shouting from the rooftops that they’re going to do? Have you read Project 2025? Or are you just willfully ignorant, just tuning out whenever they start talking about things that won’t affect you personally?
Oh and hey let’s not forget a national abortion ban, mass deportations, and an almost certain recession if not depression. Those are also on the table with a second Trump term, which fucksticks like you are helping ensure.
With all respect to Palestinians and their plight, we need to worry about our country and the possible fall of our democracy before we can start fixing the problems on the other side of the fucking globe. Problems which, under Trump, would only get worse. If you genuinely think he won’t give Israel carte blanche to flatten Palestine, you’re dumber than I thought. Oh, and if you think that genocide is bad, wait til he gives Russia Ukraine on a silver platter. Ever heard of the Holodomor?