• neidu3@sh.itjust.worksM
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    2 months ago
    1. I’m sure I remember seeing NCD suggest this as the ultimate funny thing for China, a year ago. Glad to see Chinese social media likes our ideas.
    2. I hope it spreads to the point where tankies bend over backwards to defend this as not expansions at all, while somehow being on the side of both russia and China somehow.
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      2 months ago

      Considering point 2; Plesse keep it to a non credible niveau when posting in this community

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      Calling it now: Russia has Siberia for 400 years and did dick with it. China can use Siberian resources better than Russia.

      It will always be about exploitation.

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldOP
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        2 months ago

        and space. russia has struggled to build any population of note out east, whereas China has people ready to go and a few decades of belt-and-road construction as prep.

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            iirc demographically, even after the one child policy and preference for boys for generations, the demographic split only went to 112 (male) to 100 women… which isn’t great no doubt but hardly a good reason to go north.

            the potential resource bounty and space on the other hand… no need to frame the issue as rapey

            • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works
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              This is a humorous shitposting community of degenerates, deplorables and malcontents, don’t tell me what to do. By the old gods and the new, I swear that no nubile virgins were involved in the making of this thread. Probably. Incels are just as welcome here as anyone else. You don’t even need pants in this club, but you do need a sense of the ridiculous.

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    If they rebuild the Trans-Siberian Railway to Belt and Road high-speed rail standards, once there is peace, that will be great for travel.

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    China has publicly included the loss of Manchuria to Russia in like 1905~ to be part of it’s great century of shame and that China considers it part of Greater China.

    Expanding North beyond that into Siberia would open up the arctic ocean to them, which if nobody does anything, will only get more valuable as we heat up

  • This is fine🔥🐶☕🔥@lemmy.world
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    I honestly thought about this scenario couple of years back when reading about Russia and Canada possibly benefiting from climate change as their northern areas thaw and become forests and farmlands.

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      2 months ago

      That is not a fast process. Plus solar insolation won’t change. It won’t make up for the losses in the USA.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldOP
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      it’s been on mind for a while.

      China can fight every other country in the pacific over an insignificant speck of island, or, they could actually grow their boundaries in a way that offers northwest passage access.

  • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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    I’m not sure how I feel about this, because fuck Russia, but not fuck the Russians. Turnabout is always fair play, but where along Russia’s borders would we want another front? I am not well enough versed in Asian geopolitics.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Yeah, fuck the Russian government for what they’ve done, but I still would have a very hard time supporting two giant forces built of working class no say people and slaughtered on both sides. The Chinese people don’t deserve it, neither do the Russians. propaganda clearly works around the globe. We know Russians believe different propaganda than China, U.S., Germany, Hungary, Turkey, UK… etc.

      All of it is different. But supporting any government attacking another right now only kills the people, not those creating the propaganda and spreading it.

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      Korea and maybe very specific slivers of the Kazakh border are the only other places along the Russian border where there’s really even any sizable population on either side. in all other places its just people fighting with the trees and general mud / general frost.

      If you draw a line from the Caspian sea to Vladivostok, which would basically be the contact line between a Russo-Chinese conflict. the only places immediately in range a for either side that have a lot of people are parts of northeastern China, the city of Vladivostok the Korean Peninsula, and Uzbekistan. everywhere else both sides would logistically starve themselves. cause its just miles of nothing

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    I would just laugh.

    Sure, it would be criminal and shit, but when has russia last cared about any of that UN funnyspeak?

    Bon apetit, China.

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      I do feel for the Mongolians, though. They might be a casualty as the border expansion progresses.

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    I thought that was obviously the plan all along… Pour at least make Russia, China’s Bitch.

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    I think that it is unlikely that China will do this.

    I think that it is more-likely that Beijing will seek to dominate Russia, not to conquer it. China has a 2023 GDP of $17 trillion, Russia of $2 trillion. Russia has ensured that it has to rely on China for various things for at least some time. China doesn’t need to invade to see increasing influence in Russia moving forward.

    https://jamestown.org/program/russias-fiscal-dependence-on-china-grows/

    • As Western sanctions increasingly isolate Russia, it has become highly dependent on China for trade and economic support, particularly in energy exports sold at discounted prices.
    • China has capitalized on Russia’s isolation by expanding its investments and economic influence within Russia, with Chinese companies increasing their share of Russian market participation. This economic relationship shows an imbalance, with China benefiting from favorable trade terms.
    • Western sanctions and the war in Ukraine have deeply impacted Russia’s economy, as seen in the weakening ruble, increasing reliance on China, and signs of Russia potentially becoming a subordinate economic partner to China rather than an equal.

    That’s maybe not as evocative as the image of Chinese tanks rumbling into Russia, but I think that it’s probably a much more realistic geopolitical issue for Russia.

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      I agree with you. Military deployments are expensive. Why bother when you already control the trade relationship? China is in a position to get anything it wants from Russia. Hell, if they want territory they can probably get it the same way they do everywhere else - business deals.

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      Maybe they’ll simply buy territory from Russia, in a similar manner to the Alaska purchase?