https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
Safe to say the petition was a success! Now we will have to wait and see the EU’s response to it.
Hope every gaming company out there is sweating buckets at this. This is a matter of consumer rights.
We don’t want them to sweat, we just want them to do the right thing by their customers
These two things overlap under capitalism, as doing right by your customers is only required if not doing right by your customers affects your profits.
We definitely want them to sweat.
The only way I see that happen is having the tools and ability to pirate any and all media like we had back in the napster days. That’s the only time I’ve ever seen these companies scared. A petition I don’t think will do much. Plus not only is there this issue. There is also the issue of groups now targeting the way funding works like on steam. Payment processes are now being used to apply pressure where certain groups do not like the content.
The solution was always to defend and protect the people who cracked and pirated content. But I think they were all locked up and threatened.
A petition I don’t think will do much.
This isn’t just any regular change.org petition, that can be ignored. It’s an official partition based on EU rules, where EU parliament is forced by law to listen to the initiators and talk about the topic, when it passes.
Ok but is there any group or lobbyists who are advocating or will this just be a petition sent to them which they can just ignore.
The European Parliament legally cannot ignore it.
To what extent do they have to talk about it, though? Can they address it, come to the conclusion that it’s infeasible (while subtly tucking millions of dollars from game companies into their pockets), and consider the matter settled? I understand that governments are meant to keep corporations in check to benefit the people, but functionally they keep the people in check to benefit corporations and their “lobbyists” (bribes).
They hire like two lobbyists with 100k of splurge money and this won’t pass, for sure.
If voting or filling a petition changed anything they would make it illegal.
The EU is not swayed by this kind of thing easily.
America brain, Its like they think everyone is in the same dystopia as them.
You know the guy who started this petition is an American, right?
I was under the impression that Ross Scott lived in Poland, but what does that matter its an EU and UK initiative.
Do you really not see the irony of shitting on Americans while simultaneously praising the efforts of one?
No, I can shit on americans in general and praise one quite easily. And besides this one got better.
By the way, the left could have done this for any number of issues in the past but refused to.
Like how hard would it have been if everyone who showed up to a George Floyd protest instead donated to some fund that then went to paying a lobbyist/think tank to work for them in Washington to change laws and make sure the police officers and department actually saw justice.
Are you a bot
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donated to some fund that then went to paying a lobbyist/think tank to work for them
It would be more effective to get a quarter of 1.4 million people organized with united demands and on the streets of Brussels with the actual risk of projecting threat violence on EU bureaucrats, then StopKillingGames or any petition or demand would have a much better chance of passing. At that point you wouldn’t even need collect any names before hand :) All the voting, all the petitions all the representation only exists to act as an filter and push the little people people and their little people idea’s far away from actual power as possible.
I’ll be positively surprised if this passes, but I really really really doubt it. Too much money at stake here just for the sake of having some pro consumer common sense.
The EU has gotten us pro consumer common sense a number of times already, like with iPhones and the GDPR.
There is no way that you believe people showing up in streets would do anything lol
That’s what the powerful hope we do. It’s the most useless action possible. It’s like trying to boil water by breathing hot air on it. You’ll get tired way before you get any boiling.
You literally couldn’t be more wrong
Yea whose the president?
We’ve had more protests in the past 10 years than any other time. None of them have accomplished much of anything.
You’d be lying to say otherwise. I’m sure you’ll try to find some policy or law that was implemented that nobody listens to as proof of action.
You can’t tell me there’s a global protest like George Floyd or no Kings and the result was what?? What the fuck did any of it accomplish. Insanity to continue with the idea that protests are doing anything other than given the opportunity to arrest thought leaders and kick in the heads of everything else.
You’re literally throwing bodies against an armed and trained force that watches you all protest like referees at a hockey game before they come in and break it all up. I’ve watched countless protests where the protesters are herded like cattle into pens before getting busted up. There’s no way you can tell me honestly that the authorities aren’t in love with the idea of you all showing up against their armed and trained forces. The left is doomed. It’s not just the Democrats who do these performative actions with no results. It’s all of the left.
I’ve recently gotten back into (indie) game dev and made my multiplayer game with Stop Killing Games in mind. When you connect to the game, if the server is down, you get a one-click solution to run the server locally and play single player instead.
This setup actually helped speed up development too, since now I don’t need to run both the server and client when making (most) changes :)
You’re doing gods work my dude
For every such indie dev who can do this like it’s nothing, I bet Ubisoft will find 1000 reasons why they can’t…
If only the “tax the rich” petition had such a great villain to reinvigorate interest, but I take what I can get.
This is an EU petition, not the US.
Doomers coming out in force today
???
What does the US have to do with anything I said?
There are no billionaires in EU, didn’t you know that?
There were, but we ate them.
If only.
Nothing, but that doesn’t stop people with Americabrain from making terrible comments here.
The EU has a record of actually passing pro-consumer legislation such as the GDPR and forcing companies to use standardized cables. Claiming that nothing is going to happen because of lobbying doesn’t hold up nearly as well as it does in the US
Many countries in the EU already tax the rich. I mean, it could be better. It could be a lot better, and we still have right-wing types that try to destroy that positive element within the EU.
But of all the countries that would benefit the most from heavily taxing the rich, it would be the US. And since the US has made itself the centre of all the world’s attention, and the whole world still uses the USD as the primary exchange currency, anything that would shake up the economy of the US would shake up the economy of the world.
My thoughts exactly, I find it very disheartening.
Elon, Trump, and the rest of the fucking pantheon weren’t enough to invigorate interest, I don’t who is.
Edit: how the duck is this a controversial statement
But how many of these have worked at Blizzard?
Why would that matter? EU is generally not as shit as the US on consumer protection
It’s a jab at the Pirate Software guy, I believe.
I miss when I didn’t have to hear about him all the time
Yeah, I’d like to think people would focus on other things now that SKG picked up the pace but he’ll most likely be brought up for a long time regardless on what happens with the campaign in the future - even if just as a punching bag for people to feel superior about.
Dude I could code at Blizzard in a smart fridge
I wouldn’t call it safe. The required margin is unknown and the initiative could still dip under 1 mil.
Additional signatures could still help. If you know somebody who can and hasn’t signed yet, ask them to.
Thanks, PirateSoftware!
Keep at it EU gamers!
If only someone could garner that much support for StopKillingGazans amirite
There’s arguably much more support for that, than stopkillinggames.
But the political opposition to stopkillinggames is far less.
Easy to gather, but will likely be ignored, sadly.
The whole Gaza situation is a wasp’s nest that nobody should poke without knowing damn sure what they are doing. There are multiple big players playing chess with other people’s life there, and you could lose a lot.
But given the complexity the chance that the situation is resolved and thus something is won is very small.
Yes, it’s terrible what is happening. But unless you have a lot of resources and a big army you are not in a position to muscle all the parties involved into submission, which is what will be required at this point.
We should vote out any EU parliament member who doesn’t vote ay on that lae
Lobbying against ‘SKG’ will be massive.
As always - evey problem comes from people voting on conservative and not social-democrats or social-liberals
Every other parties are bullshit worth zero
Gamers unite 💪
But then Trump said . .
This isn’t about you, America.
I genuinely can’t think of any way to address your level of immaturity. Here’s your reality check. I didn’t vote for the guy, I don’t like him. You’ve been checked kid.
And StopKillingGames has nothing directly to do with America. It’s a European/UK petition. At least understand what the topic is about before bringing up unrelated things.
Just imagine an internet after america, something to look forward to.
Here’s your reality check. I didn’t vote for the guy, I don’t like him. You’ve been checked kid.
Like someone actually typed that out, wild.
Just imagine an internet after america, something to look forward to.
An internet without Americans?
Yes please, I’ve been craving this for quite some time by now
Bring back Minitel!
You’ve been checked kid.
OK, Boomer.
Quiet America, Europe is talking.
Why? Are you guys trying to figure out if there is any places or people left you can colonize and massacre?
Says the descendant of colonizers.
Lol, thanks for sending over your best and brightest!
