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    They are scared little boys. Their fathers were emotionally (maybe physically) abusive and didn’t give them agency, just expected “respect” (do as I say)

    “Man up, sit down

    Chin up, pipe down

    Socks up, don’t cry

    Drink up, just lie

    Grow some balls, he said

    Grow some balls”

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    It’s their kink. That’s why Grindr gets overwhelmed every time they gather. I work construction and it’s the same thing there they always rally around one guy (usually a foreman) and compete for his attention. We had a foreman one time who was conventionally handsome an id say pretty cool and I shit you not dudes were talking about how he edges before working out and they all started doing it and then somehow they got a picture of his dick and we’re going around shoving it in eachothers faces and calling eachother gay “because they looked at this guy’s dick”. They started drinking the same energy drinks that he drank. I wish someone would do a psychological study on it is weird. It’s a thing

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      I can’t find it now, but I once read an article that said that bc patriarchy devalues women and our opinions and centers men, it results in straight (and non straight men I suppose) centering other men in their lives. Since only men’s opinions matter, men do everything for the approval of other men, usually the “manliest” man. For example, “trophy wives” are usually more about showing off to other men rather than bc the husband actually wants to be married to or is even super attracted to her. Or some men will pretend to not be attracted to a woman if their male friends have deemed her unattractive. Basically, they have done studies on it and if you search for homosexual desire and patriarchy you can find some (though I can’t find the specific one I’m thinking of)

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        Yes this makes sense and I’ve seen it constantly it’s really weird how much their lives are all about impressing other men

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      Most people feel lost and stay lost, pretending to be on a path others gave them, especially when they don’t practice the hard part of life: figuring out how to self actualize

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      +1…That is fucked up. Union or non-union construction? The idiots would stand on top of a 12 ft ladder for their foreman.

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    Fear.

    They rally around figures who look strong because they’re afraid of losing social status, or feeling xenophobia due to racism, or insecure over economic concerns. As always, everything is projection with these dipshits. They let fear drive them into the sort of groupthink mob they accuse liberals of being.

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      I sorta understand, I guess. But having president whatshisnuts as your figure of manliness is already a joke in itself, but elevating him to a messiah like figure is just crazy.

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        Helps if your world view is shaped by people who are continually telling you that he’s a figure of manliness, while constantly playing off your fear and insecurity for profit and political gain.

        EDIT: It’s also a very unrealistic standard of what it means to be a man, almost a caricature. It’s a masculine ideal rooted in myths of the “common-sense everyman hero” who’s wisdom is more valuable than other’s knowledge, instincts more accurate than other’s intellect, and cunning able to overcome other’s skill. He’s a man who’s anger and will can overcome insurmountable odds, and who’s “rough-around-the edges” personality is more attractive than practiced social graces. There’s no need for growth or change, because our hero needs nothing more than the innate qualities he already possesses to thrive, and because of that failure is never his fault.

        It’s the aesthetic of romanticized cowboys, gangsters, renegade cops, and retired spec-ops, a domesticated version of 1980’s gritty action-hero masculinity adapted for group membership. It’s always framed as bucking authority and going against the grain, even though conformity is required to be one of the “good guys”. Being low on the totem pole allows you to gain the virtue of being a simple man with a simple life, or being the trusted sergeant “who really makes things happen around here”, but doesn’t mean that you’re incapable of rising to any occasion just because you have guts. Washboard abs or hard work are only important when they can be used to show how weak and ineffective your opponents are, but what’s really important is that you’re able to dismiss, demean, deny, and destroy anything that doesn’t conform to the right way of doing things to gain the accolades you’re due and save yourself the embarrassment of having to admit your hero fantasies aren’t true.

        Again, it’s ridiculous to apply this ideal to the bloated orange, but it’s an image he cultivates. His personal mythology is embodying that ideal and gaining massive success in every endeavor because of it. It allows his failings to be used as evidence that he’s “just like us”, and not as examples of his overall lack of redeeming qualities.

        But I wouldn’t expect it every really make sense, because at it’s core it’s just a bullshit justification for getting whatever they want with as little effort as possible.

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          That’s absurd AF but it actually does make sense in a weird, twisted worldview sort of way. Thanks for the explanation!

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    It’s simple. They are super insecure guys and want to feel big, so they are assholes to women because women are easy targets. They drive massive trucks, love to BBQ and watch sports with other insecure men, but at the same time they lack any real identity and are completely lost without their mommy to take them by their hand. But mommy is a woman, and having your mommy to care for your insecure ass looks stupid to your friends, so you just follow another screaming asshole so you look touch yourself (you do not, you’re a sad piece of garbage and everyone sees it).

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        That was my question. I’m working on a brisket as we speak and I don’t plan on watching sports, wearing a red hat, or treating any women like shit.

        I also have a truck that I haul shit in, but notice I don’t feel the need to ask what’s wrong with that. I know very fucking well what’s wrong with trucks.

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        The idea that eating dead, half burned animals makes you more of a man. While in fact most meat comes from female animals and is full of estrogen.

        If you want proof it’s stupid, listen to RFK jr. his advice. He has an almost full meat diet. Anything this guy says, you should do the exact opposite.

        I’m a vegan but I’m not judging people who eat meat. I do however judge people who only do it to compensate their micropenis, to act like they’re a real man. While they can’t even drill a hole in a wall, repair a dripping tap or patch a bicycle tire.

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          You do know that it’s possible to like a style of food without subscribing to a stereotype?

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            Just because there are people who need giant pickup trucks for work doesn’t mean every guy needs one.

            I’m talking about the behavior of a certain type of person. I’m not saying everyone who likes to BBQ has a micropenis. I’m just saying people with a micropenis do it to feel more manly.

            So, do you know a stereotype can do a certain act just because of their stereotype, without the act being bad on itself?

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          He said he eats meats and “ferments”. What is a “ferment” because I have never heard that particular word used to describe a type of food.

          Also, BBQ is not at all the issue here. Not in any way.

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      I’d like to point out that grilling and barbecue are different things. Most guys do not barbecue. Grilling is extremely common, though.

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      Great explanation but I also love BBQ. Please don’t bring BBQ into this. It’s not BBQ’s fault.

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        I like to BBQ too, although no longer with meat.

        Not every person who likes to BBQ immediately is an insecure asshole. It’s just that insecure assholes like to BBQ to feel manly.

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      Why is it ok to put every single person that votes a certain way into a box? I would also like to point out that Canada is not the USA. Canadian conservatives share very few values with their American counterparts

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        Huh, I guess you don’t know folks who have fox news on all the time, then. It’s pretty common in Alberta. The values are pretty in sync after years of that.

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        People who have no clue of how the world works vote a certain way. They put themselves in a certain box by voting dumb.

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          Both sides think the exact same thing about each other. One is glued to FOX and the other to CNN. How is one more right then the other? This is all by design because they want us divided to more easily control. The elites are the problem because they are our governments and more.

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            I get what you’re saying but saying “both sides are the same” is just sort of lazy/sloppy analysis.

            A more accurate approximation is far older, something like: “we’re seeing 1/3 of the country attempt to kill another 1/3 of the country while another 1/3 watches.”

            And you’re right this is due to scapegoating by the wealthy but if a third of the country didn’t want to murder another third of the country then the wealthy would not find it nearly as easy to divide us.

            Just destroying their wealth wont fix anything at this point. You also have to destroy a media system they spent about 70 years and two generations building or we will simply find ourselves in the same spot very shortly

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            Neither side is right. The whole system is fucked up. It’s just a 2 party system, how is any party going to represent a large part of society? The Dems are right wing, the Reps are alt right. The system is fucked up. But the Reps try to make everything even more fucked up the most, as they want life for themselves to be better at the cost of the lives of others. While being too dumb to understand that when the largest part of your society lives in poverty without education and health care, the entire society will collapse and is going to suffer from the massive grave they just helped digging. Including their own selfish rich ass.

            One is glued to FOX and the other to CNN

            One definitely is glued to FOX, the other is more scattered across news sources, as the Reps generally are rather dumb shortsighted people and the rest of the population who doesn’t vote Reps range from dumb CNN glued people to intelligent people who know better but have no other option than the Dems, just not to have to vote for Reps.

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      Downloaded. Definitely going to use this next time I see some CHUD making wildly sweeping statements about trans ppl.

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    The German philosopher Hannah Arendt asked herself a very similar question when, during the trial of Nazi official and war criminal Adolf Eichmann, she attempted to understand how a human being could be capable of such monstrous atrocities. In this context, she coined the expression “banality of evil.”

    It is worth taking a look at her book “Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil,” because her observations in it are, unfortunately, once again highly relevant today.

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    1. Belief in the concept of an “alpha male” necessitates having a strongman leader.
    2. Bootlickers need a boot to lick.
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    Because part of conservatism is the idea that hierarchies based on who your parents are, and the fact that you’re male, etc. are proper and right.

    They want to submit to the people who are correctly above them in the hierarchy, and want the people who are supposed to be below them in the hierarchy to submit to them.

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    They like hierarchy because it means there are people below them in that hierarchy.

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    Ole Gavin McInnes takin a dildo up the ass to “own teh libs” sure shut me the fuck up.

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    Did you hear Trump’s press conference yesterday? Dude was talking about how much he wanted to kiss this steel worker for like 2 minutes.

    They are all closet homosexuals.

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    Because in reality they are betas, they call themselves alphas but they are easily manipulated and they are lap dogs of powerful people

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    Their personal status is held together by the status of these authority figures. If their authority isn’t legitimate, then neither are they.