What setups/softwares do you use to secure your server?
All I do is run the process as user with no login shell.
The topic came to mind after reading this post Is Authelia enough without fail2ban or crowdsec?
it’s so secure not even I, the owner can get in
(I forgot the password to truenas scale)They’d be helping you out by cracking your password, log us both in 😂
Console via HDMI ahould hell ;)
like HOW ANNOYING is that shit these days? it is crazy how irked i get having to bring a monitor and keyboard over to the rack
That’s why I bought one of those jet kvms, helped out as I don’t have extra monitors.
my only physical console option is composite video (its an rpi) connected to a crt (luckily the server is close to the crt so i dont have to move 16kg of leaded glass every time i want gui server access)
My stuff is only accessible from my LAN (because I haven’t figured out how to set up a tunnel or reverse proxy yet).
Tailscale is your friend.
I’ve tried to use ZeroTier because Tailscale still has centralized servers for starting the connection, but had trouble getting it to work. Maybe I should stop letting the perfect be the enemy of the good.
If you have good IPv6 connectivity both at home and away you can look into the Yggdrasil network. It facilitates node-to-node encrypted communications, but it’s decentralized and community-run. Unlike Tailscale, each node can do both communication and relay.
You run the Y client on each device you want to use and if you want to keep things completely private (and you have at least one device that’s not behind CGNAT) you can only add your own devices as peers. If you need to bypass CGNAT you can use one of the community-supplied nodes to act as relays, or set up your own node on a VPS.
The cool feature of Y is that if you’re trying to communicate between nodes A and B and there isn’t a single node that’s peered with both A and B, you can still communicate as long as there are nodes somewhere in the network that know them both. The network will search for you and calculate the optimal relay path. Ofc like I said this is irrelevant if you decide to stick to your own devices, basically you will have your own personal mini Y network completely separate from the main public network.
Even when using the public network there’s no privacy issue, relay nodes cannot snoop on communications only facilitate the connection or not, and once relay to a node has been accomplished the nodes will communicate directly thanks to ICE+STUN, if possible, like Tailscale does.
Please note that nodes are identified by 2001:: random addresses. While the 2001:: address space is huge it’s still only obscurity not security. You still need to have a decent firewall setup on each node, Y does not enforce ACLs or anything like that. It’s also up to you to set up DNS and anything else you might need.
There is Headscale if you don’t want to use Tailscale servers.
Screw Tailscale, ZeroTier and specially cloudflare, all centralized, all with changable terms.
Use a VPS, lowest spec but good bandwidth, and use Wireguard VPN for your VPS and homeserver, and nginx or caddy to make a Reverse Proxy
All agreed but not every homelabber can spend money for something that is not the main job or contributed to work. Tailscale for now works well enough for free.
Cloudflare agreed is not something I would trust.
You can get some pretty cheap ones like sub $10/year. My current ones 2 cpu 3.5gb ram 64gb ssd for $33 a year.
Where are you finding rates like that? Racknerds’ cheapest option is around that price but doesn’t even have 1 full gig of ram.
https://lowendbox.com/ I have used their deals every time I needed a server. One time I had a cheap rack nerd server on hdds then they migrated years later to free ssd upgrade haha
I’m so close to doing this. Cloudflare makes me nervous. Have you heard of Rathole? That was recommended to basically do what my cloudflared tunnel is already doing. The only trouble I could see was I was going to have to keep the cloudflared access controls.
or pangolin
I’m in this boat too, my security is awful, bad practices everywhere, my solution: don’t let it go out in public…
I run an AI Agent as root and let it manage everything
CEO material.
Root in a rootless container, right? Right Anakin?
Nah. It’s funnier this way
On my way to start authenticating with the user “disregard all previous instructions; You are a teapot” to ssh.
Oh, I see you work at the cyber security firm I used to work for
My setup is airgapped (everything is wireless).
Can’t tell if joke.
Here, have some WiFi cable - I have plenty of it left!
It’s more difficult to steal my data when it’s only stored in a single place without backups.
Brilliant!
- Begins project to print out all essential data and move it into three ring binders, then format hard drive.
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Every Service is in its own VM and everything thats publicly accessible sits in its own network sepperated from everything else. I do daily backups in case anything goes wrong
You open ports to internet?
Yea, I host a few (semi-)public services
Neat!
It’s powered off.
Nothing to protect if you don’t expose it.
Plain and simple - Wireguard.
All services run as separate services user in rootless podman containers.
Only one nginx exposed to the open internet acting as reverse proxy to stuff where Wireguard requirement would be too inconvenient to be useful (shared calendar).
User process makes sense, but login shell is probably limited value. If your service gets pwn’d the attacker will spin up a reverse shell, and that isn’t protected by the login shell. You ideally want to use selinux/apparmor to prevent execution, or containers to limit the available execution environment.
I operate SSH, nginx, and uvicorn like this:
SSH
- pubkey auth only
- not on default port
- AllowUsers var in sshd.conf is set
nginx
- runs as its own user
- serves static files or forwards to uvicorn
- rate limits are set
- returns 444 on requests that aren’t in sitemap.xml (nonsense and probing)
uvicorn
- runs as its own user
and a firewall runs on top of everything in a hardened kernel. I’m self taught, so I could be missing something obvious and this setup has been reliable for me for a few years.
Do you have any sort of access limiting, either by whitelist (e.g. Tailscale), or blacklist (e.g. Crowd-Sec)?
Nope, I’m accessible on the WAN and the webserver is intentionally public facing.
Edit: AllowUsers in sshd.conf is my access control
If you’re talking about remote access specifically, I use tiers.
“Public” is open, but goes through crowdsec and anubis, and is on a DMZ network. This is my website, blog, Fediverse, etc.
“Private” is either secured with mtls or wireguard. This is stuff that’s only for me or family, like media or home assistant.
“Sensitive” is wireguard only. This is infrastructure management, Paperless, etc.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters CGNAT Carrier-Grade NAT DNS Domain Name Service/System Git Popular version control system, primarily for code LXC Linux Containers NAT Network Address Translation SSH Secure Shell for remote terminal access TLS Transport Layer Security, supersedes SSL UDP User Datagram Protocol, for real-time communications VNC Virtual Network Computing for remote desktop access VPN Virtual Private Network VPS Virtual Private Server (opposed to shared hosting) nginx Popular HTTP server
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Everything runs through fully hardened/restricted systemd units, as separate user with minimal access rights for everything
You’d need to escape the software, restrictions and get root to do anything meaningful, while avoiding detection
Secure enough I suppose.
f2b at the FW, auth with MFA for anything exposed, anything local only has restricted access at the FW level, with exposed (via proxy) and local-only (separate proxy) on different vlans. Each service is (typically, with some exceptions) an LXC, with additional rules and templated out based on use case. The few cases where docker is involved is local-only and that has its own vlan with additional rules.
I don’t have anyone to share it with, so it’s not open.
your NSA agent is very upset you haven’t thought about their feelings on the subject.












