They told me Windows 10 was the last Windows and I intend to make them fulfill that promise. And when I fail to make them fulfill their promise, I will keep it for myself.
/sigh at this point i feel like “that guy” but M$ didnt say 10 would be the last Microsoft, a specific employee said it in a specific situation, that in context was pretty obviously “latest” and not “final”.
The internet just took that one line and ran with it, as they are known to do.
/sigh, I barely use it, and when I do, it pisses me off. I’ll try to remember this anyway, thanks.
Just in time to switch to Linux for me. Now that all my games run on Linux that will be the logical choice
Win10 is the last windows. Defang it and put it in a VM. Still a better UI than the competition although KDE plasma is getting close, dolphin is very nice
KDE these days is better at being Windows than Windows. Dunno how long it’s been since you’ve used it (or how much/little you tinkered with it)
I tried it last week. It looks and feel great. But it’s missing a lot of software that I want and many things are in the wrong place. Maybe when they add seamless network transparency to Wayland and I can just stream the applications that I want.
That’s just because you’ve been raised on it.
Yes, I will not retrain my muscle memory plus the incessant fucking around in console to do basic things like search files. I want everything, irfanview, alt-snap, , explorer patcher features, consistent dark themes, ditto clipboard manager, fancyZone, xmousebuttoncontrol. Exactly identical, I’m staying on defanged win10 until then
I feel Microsoft is in for a huge surprise when they end support for all versions of Windows except one that requires you to throw out your old hardware. At the same time, Linux is better than it’s ever been and is almost, if not just as easy to use as Windows. Not to mention, most work is done from a browser these days.
I’m going to say there’s a 10% chance Windows 11 gets BIOS support (or rather drops UEFI requirement) and drops TPM/SecureBoot requirement in the next three years. I think that’s more likely than extending Windows 10 longer.
I have a ton of application issues with Linux, so I have a dual boot.
What you mean ended? It was just released the other day…
That was like two decades ago.
There was official support for Windows 7?
Only the embedded variety meant to run on machines like ATMs, POS systems and other long term support machines.
Well, plus all the other versions too, but embedded especially in this case
POSReady
Hehe
Lately I’ve been using OpenSUSE GNU/Linux and so far I’ve been relatively happy with. The installation process is simple and concise, and the system is rock-solid and easy to use.
Opensuse is a very good and somewhat underrated choice imo
One of us!
I have Leap on my homelab and Tumbleweed on my desktop and laptop for >5 years now. It’s been awesome, and it’s my favorite so far from >15 years of Linux.
Glad you’re enjoying it! Next step: get unreasonably obsessed with chameleons.
I’m running Tumbleweed myself! Been very pleased overall. I believe OpenSUSE may have just cured my distro-hopping.
I’ve distro hopped for over 20 years. I always come back to SUSE. SUSE 8 was the first distro I use and they just always seem to have some qol additions I’m used to.
Maybe I should try OpenSUSE first when I’ll switch my gaming desktop back to Linux. My first Linux experience was with SuSE 6.2 and that was very positive. Good to hear people are still happy about it.
Windows has been alternating between good and crap for decades. ME, crap. XP, good. Vista, crap. 7, good. 8/8.1, crap. 10, good…ish. 11, steaming feces. 12 will probably be at least half decent.
I doubt that will be true anymore. 12 will probably have even more spyware and ads than 11.
I really ought to switch my main pc to Linux.
Do it today.
11 made me make that switch. My main gaming / media machine is still on W10 and will be until it dies. Then I’ll finally invest in figuring out gaming on Linux.
But for day to day browsing and development. Ubuntu has been excellent and is much more snappy than windows. I also picked up a cheap ancient MacBook pro for interviews and it’s a solid machine as well.
No regrets so far.
The most Windows-like desktop(and more) on Linux is KDE, second maybe to Cinnamon, and XFCE if we’re talking XP-ish and classic.
On Linux, your underlying system is not reliant on your GUI. They are not bonded in any sense, and the GUI can be any number of different programs, known as Desktops.
You can run a Ubuntu system with the KDE desktop, or the Gnome desktop, Unity, or XFCE, or Cinnamon… or maybe two or three at once and choose at login! he’s a madman!
I like how GNOME looks, I’ve messed around with it a little on my laptop.
I switched to Bazzite on my main PC at the start of September and it’s been great. I only use Windows for steam link vr streaming
Fedora on kde is nice.
Second Fedora, prefer Cosmic or Gnome tho.
12 will very likely just be 11. They don’t do OS development like they used to. Windows is essentially now an OS that gets DLC every 6 months.
11 is just 10, so… yeah.
10, good…ish.
Windows 10 was never really good, its launch was very rocky. Most people just stockholmed their way into liking 10.
It started to get some much needed dev features around 2019.
Fake news. MS said that Win 10 was the last one they were going to make so all of those others you mentioned are obviously fake.
I’m a heretic, but Vista > 7 and 8.1 > 10.
Fuck you
Love you too <3
I use Arch BTW.
I’ve had the opposite experience - 10 sucked, but I have no complaints about 11… Though it might make a difference that my experience with 10 was after my old (win7 vintage) laptop took the free update, while my 11 experience is based on a new laptop that came with it preinstalled…
F
salute
I have an old ASUS laptop with a 670M on Windows 7, any prayer the jump to Linux for drivers will be smooth? 🤞
I have an i914900KF desktop on windows 11 (I have to use it) and loathe the OS lol. Definitely wish there were programs for chopping down Windows 11 spyware crap.
with a 670M
Your GPU doesn’t support latest drivers, and older drivers are a nuisance.
Bummer 😓
Rest of the system should work with iGPU, if you aren’t interested in heavy gaming you can use Linux just fine.
Unironically, the best bet for them is nvidia 540xx drivers on the AUR with an LTS kernel.
I’m not up on current Linux drivers, how good/bad is that news? 🥴
It’s very good.
Basically, there is one maintainer in the AUR (the name escapes me, jonathon I think it was?) who applies the necessary patches to the old NVIDIA drivers to make them run with a modern Linux kernel.
Of course, there won’t be any Wayland support, but the experience is acceptable as long as you temper your expectations in terms of graphics API support. (No vulkan sadly)
I hadn’t used it myself but I know a person who does and loves it. iGPU handles Wayland stuff while the NVIDIA is there for the heavy lifting in Xorg.
Nvidia’s website returns me only 390 and 415 for 670M
I probably misremembered something then, 390xx it is then.
But whatever it may be it is in the AUR 100%.
That won’t stop us. I’ve still got customers on variants of Windows XP.
o7
I can’t believe I haven’t turned off recall on my latest computer. I need to harden it already… and make my transition to linux.
Recall is opt in now though and iirc you also need an ARM computer with some very specific processor to be able to use it at all.
Peice of shit ready?
Point of Sale Ready… PoS properly describes every single one of those softwares.
Wait, just now?
Then why did I read online that it was insecure as hell to stay in Windows 8.1? (I was setting up an old lap for a mom’s friend, with 4 painful GBs of RAM).
Also, doesn’t Windows 10 support supposedly end next year?
I think I am not getting the kind of support that Windows provides.
Microsoft offers a long-term support version of Windows called LTSC that’s stripped down, only receives security updates, and is supported for 10 years from its release.
It’s only officially available to business clients, but with a little yar har fiddeldy dee, you too can experience extended support!
but with a little yar har fiddeldy dee, you too can experience extended support!
I figured, but I didn’t read anything about that when I was on the massgrave site the other day, so that is why I just thought all older Windows versions are gone for good.
It will come in handy for my Windows 10 Pro version that I have installed in my Mac though.
The extended support updates aren’t available to end consumers but is a paid product for enterprises that need more time to update.
Ah, definitely clearer to me now, thanks, and it sucks.
Funnily, Windows 7 ended up with longer support than Windows 8.
