• USSMojave@startrek.website
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    If you don’t vote for Harris it’s effectively a vote for Trump, and Trump has publicly said he would help Netanyahu finish the job. That’s the choice we are facing

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    1 day ago

    Single. Issue. Voters. Need. To. Get. Their. Heads. Out. Of. Their. Asses.

    I just fucking “can’t” with people who refuse to see or even acknowledge the bigger picture.

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      This isn’t a single issue voter. A single issue voter concerned with Palestine would absolutely vote for Harris. Harris has a shitty stance on Palestine, but Trump wants to accelerate the genocide so Harris is the clear choice.

      This is an idiot who thinks that by making things markably worse for Palestinians, they’re making a principled stand for Palestinians. It is beyond dumb.

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      See, I don’t even think this is “single issue”, since the single issue it’s calling out will be worse under Trump.

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        Maybe I read the article differently, but it seemed pretty single-issue to me.

        All of the things the author is demanding will never happen under Trump. None of it. Not one goddamned thing. They may get the opposite of most of that, though.

        Keeping him out of office is a required first step to getting any of their wish list. 3rd party candidates are not going to get elected until we get rid of the Electoral College which is not happening between now and Election Day. No amount of foot stamping, crying, bitching, moaning, or keyboard-warrioring on the internet is going to change that. The only way to beat Cheeto Mussolini is for everyone against him to rally behind the candidate that is likely to win. Not Stein. Not West. Not Billy Bob nor writing in Jeebus.

        That protest vote is as dumb as it is pointless in red Ohio.

    • suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml
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      Especially when they still manage to be wrong on that one issue. Trump will be worse on Gaza and throwing away the only chance to stop him, without even getting into everything else he’s also going to make worse, makes them complicit.

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    One of two candidates will win this election.

    Either:

    The one who has repeatedly called for an immediate cease fire and a two state solution:

    March - https://www.npr.org/2024/03/04/1234822836/kamala-harris-benny-gantz-gaza-cease-fire-israel-hamas

    July - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/25/harris-netanyahu-israel-cease-fire-00171315

    September - https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/harris-trump-presidential-debate-election-2024/card/harris-calls-for-ceasefire-in-gaza-while-trump-claims-she-hates-israel--isokhfqmy6EgRGrUOSuK

    OR:

    The one who says “You’ve got to get it done quickly because they are getting decimated with this publicity. And, you know, Israel is not very good at public relations, I’ll tell you that.”

    https://www.palestinechronicle.com/trump-urges-quick-end-to-israels-war-on-gaza-cites-bad-publicity/

    So pick one. One of these two people is closest to your view on Gaza. One of these two people will be the next president.

    If you can’t hold your nose and vote for the person closest to your view, you have an obligation to NOT support the person FARTHEST from your view.

    Staying home or voting 3rd party ONLY helps Trump.

  • P_P@lemm.ee
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    Just don’t cry when the Leopards come for dinner.

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      Dot has a totally different pattern and posts actual questions in other communities.

      I can’t say with 100% certainty they aren’t, but I’m at least 90% certain they aren’t.

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    is now, in large part, a referendum on genocide

    No, it isn’t. Part of the problem with articles like this is the idealogical bubbles so readily afforded by modern life to the author. Nearly twice the percentage of Americans are fine (or think more should be done) with the USs arming of Israel than think it is a problem. The percentages within parties aren’t even that far apart. The average American doesn’t care about brown people dying half a world away. Anyone who has been paying even the tiniest bit of attention for the last 50 years should already know this.

    But when you hang out in leftist spaces online, have leftist friends IRL, and read mostly leftist news sources, you lose sight of the fact that the average American is politically much closer to your problematic uncle you only see on the high holidays, than you.

    a vote for her is the best/only way to register a “no” to genocide vote. To state, as liberal Democrat supporters tend to do, that Trump will be worse when it comes to Gaza, obfuscates this point.

    No it isn’t. Doing whatever it takes to keep it from getting worse is in direct service of this point. It sucks that the only outcomes are the status quo or make it worse, but as long as that is the case, then not choosing to not make it worse is a moral failing.

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    They are in Ohio. Protest vote all you want. If you are in a battleground state and you vote for anyone over Harris because of Palestine, you are a fucking idiot.

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    When they are rounded up and booted from this country I wonder what they will think of this vote?