• @DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works
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    236 days ago

    Same for searching: “did Elon Musk make a nazi salute?” Only got a response when I replaced “nazi salute” with “offensive gesture”. Ok google

    • @pyre@lemmy.world
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      46 days ago

      fuck me. i don’t know why people still use google search; it was shit even before all this. jumped ship years ago.

      • @viking@infosec.pub
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        26 days ago

        What are you using now? I’ve been toying with kagi for a while, but the idea of having to use an account that ties all my searches to me doesn’t sit well with my sense of privacy, and none of the others get results remotely close to google.

        • @pyre@lemmy.world
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          36 days ago

          i disagree. Google’s results went to shit for me years ago. the first page was literally just ads, sponsored links that had nothing to do with my search or looked like what i was looking for but were phishing/malware sites, regular results that were less about what i searched and more about what google found more appropriate for me.

          i started to use duckduckgo despite its incredibly stupid name and it’s just like old times for me. except now it has AI assist which you can turn off or set how often you want to see it.

          two things that helped sell me DDG was bangs and DDG browser. i got used to using DDG browser as default on mobile except for things i wanted to have persistent sessions on, which are very rare it turns out. bangs also help you directly search specific sites or even google in the unlikely event i would want to try to search that monstrosity instead. if you search for something and you don’t find what you want and want to try Google instead, just add !g to the search and it directs you to Google search instead. !gi for Google images.

          there are tons of other bangs, like !w for Wikipedia and !imdb for… you’ll never guess but i use it sometimes.

        • @Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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          16 days ago

          Duckduckgo is the “change in 5 seconds” answer. Its better but still problematic somewhat. The search results are at least a ton better though.

    • WIZARD POPE💫
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      146 days ago

      The most tremendous dementia they have seen. The greatest people have looked at me and said it’s the biggest, greatest case they have seen. The biggest of all time.

    • Victor
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      66 days ago

      This is so succinctly Trump. 😂 Bravo! Really captures the essence in one and a half sentences.

      • @vpklotar@lemmy.world
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        66 days ago

        I’ve been a Kagi user for over a year and I usually hate AI summaries. Though I must say I love how Kagi has implemented them as it gives sources where it found the info so you can dig deeper and see if what it said was actually correct.

        • Derpgon
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          36 days ago

          Their AI is pretty good, both assistant and search summaries. Been using it extensively as it actually provides correct and objective information (at least more often than others). It is also privacy-first, so you don’t get those annoying personality shifts as with like GPT.

        • @droans@midwest.social
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          16 days ago

          Kagi’s summaries are great.

          They’re hidden by default, requiring you to click the button first. They don’t extrapolate too much. And their sources will be the exact same links you got from the search.

    • @DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      26 days ago

      I use mojeek, and startpage sometimes. Ddg is too influenced now, they do the same stuff Google does. Brave is run by people who hate LGBT people so I can’t support them in good conscience.

      • @Cyberflunk@lemmy.world
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        15 days ago
        The post is likely referring to a long-standing controversy around Brendan Eich, the founder and CEO of Brave (the browser and search engine company). In 2008, Eich donated $1,000 to support California's Proposition 8, a ballot measure that banned same-sex marriage (later overturned by courts). This came to light in 2014 when he was briefly appointed CEO of Mozilla, leading to widespread backlash from employees, users, and activists who viewed it as anti-LGBTQ+. Eich resigned from Mozilla after just 11 days amid the outcry, expressing regret for causing pain but not fully recanting his views.
        
        Some people, including in the LGBTQ+ community and allies, continue to avoid or criticize Brave on these grounds, seeing it as support for leadership with historically discriminatory stances. This isn't a "new" issue in 2025—it's tied to events from over a decade ago—but it persists in discussions about ethical tech choices. Brave has faced other unrelated controversies (e.g., ad practices), but this one specifically relates to anti-LGBT perceptions.
        
        For more details:
        - [Wikipedia on Brendan Eich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Eich)
        - [Article on the Mozilla controversy](https://www.osnews.com/story/27646/the-new-mozilla-ceos-political-past-is-imperiling-his-present/)
        - [Recent discussion on Brave controversies](https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/)
        - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43300333
        

        well fuck! brave is the one browser that fits all my needs.

  • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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    55 days ago

    This is probably payback for letting them off the hook on the monopoly suits. Expect more “payback” as they manipulate the narrative.

  • synae[he/him]
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    116 days ago

    Can I get unavailable AI overviews for all my searches? Then Google has a chance to be usable again

  • @RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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    67 days ago

    Ok, so don’t look for an AI response? Sure, Google censoring results is shit, google NOT censoring results about the same query about Biden is even shittier, but you still get search results about the question.

      • @tempest@lemmy.ca
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        47 days ago

        Kagi does provide a good experience but it can never replace the free search engines. It relies pretty heavily on Google’s search API it just allows you to massage the results with tools Google took away.

        • @Glitchvid@lemmy.world
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          Kagi uses Bing as its primary search index AFAIK, so no Google search API there.

          That said, it does run entirely on Google Cloud Services, which I personally find ironic.

          • @Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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            16 days ago

            So what your saying is it doesn’t rely on just one but two massive corps to actually deliver it’s product which is ment to be an alterative to those very products?

            Kek

    • @vpklotar@lemmy.world
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      36 days ago

      If you don’t mind paying a little I have found that Kagi is the best. Sure, the others mentions are free but subpar, even to google. Kagi is simply better but with the downside of a monthly subscription. I love that they are quite transparent with changelogs and stuff when the make changes.

    • @droans@midwest.social
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      16 days ago

      Kagi.

      The downside is that it costs $10 per month.

      The upside is:

      • Privacy first
      • You can pin websites to the top of results, promote them so they appear higher, demote them so they appear lower, or have them completely removed
      • Lenses - quickly tell Kagi what type of results you want (News sources, academic articles, forum posts, programming sites, small web, etc.)
      • Snaps - search shortcuts kinda like bangs. Eg, typing @w is the same as typing site:wikipedia.com
      • An actual good AI summary. Completely unobtrusive - only activated when you press the button, doesn’t overextrapolate your request, and will only source the same results that you get from the search
      • Direct image results

      When I first migrated a couple years ago, it was a bit worse than Google but pretty close. Nowadays, I find it to be much much better. It’s honestly close to how Google was back in 2015 before they made it garbage.

  • @ChaosSpectre@lemmy.zip
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    27 days ago

    Oh so youre saying that AI companies can control what the AI says?

    So meta letting their AI sext with children was intentional then…

  • @SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social
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    987 days ago

    Forget the spokesperson, just ask Google AI directly:

    AI on Google Search, including the AI Overviews in search, does not provide summaries on topics involving Donald Trump and dementia. This is due to risk aversion, sensitivity to political topics, and recent legal challenges. Instead, these searches return a list of traditional web links.

    Reasons for the lack of response

    • Risk of misinformation: AI-generated conclusions about a public figure’s health could spread misinformation. The mental acuity of Donald Trump and President Joe Biden, the oldest presidents in U.S. history, is a topic of public discussion.
    • Avoiding political sensitivity: AI models often have restrictions on sensitive or controversial topics to avoid biased responses. Google and other tech companies are cautious about how their AI products respond to election-related or partisan queries.
    • Legal history with Trump: Google’s handling of Trump-related content may be influenced by recent legal and political issues. In 2025, Google paid a $24.5 million settlement in a lawsuit related to the suspension of Trump’s YouTube account.
    • Inconsistent application of AI summaries: Some users report that searches about other politicians, like Barack Obama or Joe Biden, may return an AI-generated response, though this varies. This inconsistency has led to criticism that the AI applies selective censorship.

    Google’s statement A Google spokesperson stated that AI Overview and AI Mode do not always show answers to all queries, especially sensitive or complex ones. The company suggests that users rely on traditional search results in such cases.

    • Leon
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      447 days ago

      Okay, but why? LLMs always give a response, they’re trained to give a response regardless of accuracy. This entire wall of text could be completely made up.

        • Leon
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          127 days ago

          Absolutely. It’s the same untrustworthy substanceless nonsense.

          • @willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            36 days ago

            We need to concern ourselves with what the corporations do.

            Who gives a shit how they explain themselves?

            Once the corps do something egregiously bad, we should not ask for an explanation. We should insist they change how they behave. Period.

    • Phoenixz
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      167 days ago

      Yeah, we consistently give the wrong answer on any divisive and sensitive topic, but THIS particular issue we will skip because we wouldn’t want somebody to feel like we don’t have our tongue solidly lodged up their ass

      • @Jason2357@lemmy.ca
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        57 days ago

        Yeah, it’s insanely inept. They could have restricted the AI from answering “any question about a public figure and dementia” or even “the health information about a politician” or whatever if they were genuinely concerned. But they blocked only specifically Trump and dementia? It’s almost intentionally obvious.

    • @CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      117 days ago

      Instead, these searches return a list of traditional web links.

      “Oh…oh okay. So you know what that is. Why are unable to provide traditional web links for ALL my searches? Because, I’m gonna be honest with you Google. I never asked for you to ‘summarize’ my web results and the fact that you can turn it off at your discretion tells me that you could turn it off for everyone.”

    • kn0wmad1c
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      57 days ago

      Ok, but it has no problem answering about Biden’s dementia