Netenyahu might not be able to be detained as a head of state, but his consular staff can probably be arrested and detained for questioning. The Us did sign the geneva conventions and are legally bound to act on those. Even just cuffing them and marching them to a car would be great to see. And either way, Mamdani and his state police should be shadowing the war criminals everywhere he goes so that if any new yokrer is threatened or abused, he can step in and literally kick some ass.
Israeli diplomats have a history of roughing up protestors whose messages they dont like. Any of that should be met with immediate overwhelming force by the state of New York to protect the citizens of new york in their right to peaceful protest in the US. No halfassed apologies later, we need interverntion as it happens. If some diplomats get roughed up, well-- we can send an apology for that later. Israel just detained and pointed guns at Ro Khanna the other day. they deserve the same treatment. Guns aimed at their heads.Best not to make such decision public. See whether Netanyahu is willing to gamble.
Seems like that’s the point. If they tell him they will arrest him he might not come at all
But if he only leaves it “undecided” then Netanyahu will probably chicken out while Mamdani won’t be providing ammo for the (US funded) Zionist Israel lobby.
Oh, come on! Don’t say it out loud! Just prepare quietly. Subrepciously redirect him to a Jet charted to go straight to the Hague. And I don’t mean the nearest airport. I mean landing right by the freaking door of the International Court.
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That would, unfortunately, be a big stretch.
In a city of billionaires, Mamdani is not owned, which is why they’re all so scared of him: the powers that be can’t control him, and they can’t even predict him.
Which is exactly what makes this so based. Mamdani IS the mayor of NYC. He could make Bibi’s arrival in his city a little slice of hell in all manner of ways, many of which would break no law at all, and many New Yorkers would be thrilled to do their part.
But will he? No one knows. And that’s the beauty of it. We all know he’s thinking about it now.
So whether this pans out in reality or not, it’s always good policy to make a motherfucker watch his own back. Mamdani just turned Bibi into a motherfucker with a back that needs watching in NYC.
New England loves taking down tyrants. It’s kind of our whole thing 😉
Loving the recent “New York is a part of New England” trend.
A joint northeastern political identity will help with soft balkanization.
I thought your whole thing was some of the best chowder in the world?
I thought their whole thing was being massively racist…
Aww two Confederate sympathizers downvoted you.
I appreciate when my leaders use their power to arrest war-criminals. It makes the world a safer place
It’s been a LONG time since you’ve felt that appreciation.
For fuck’s sake, don’t talk about it. Don’t posture, don’t chest-beat, and don’t blather about it in public. Don’t give the fucker any warning. Just do it when he shows up.
Not responding at all would make people accuse him of being a Zionist. Saying “no, we won’t be doing that, are you fucking stupid?” is correct, but would also make people accuse him of being a Zionist. So instead of acting, which he can’t do, he’s “examining” the possibility and “weighing his options”; those options being jack shit.
Only children or the incredibly stupid think there is any reality where this could happen.
All he had to do was talk about it and Trump took the bait.
It’s free press and great PR.
No,you don’t get it. The mere fact that he is talking about it now is a good indication that he’s already done all the analysis, and knows he can’t take any action. So, by coming out and saying he’s “examining” it, he continues to keep the issue in the news and gain popularity on it in spite of knowing the law is not on his side.
He has made the political determination, though, that even New York City, which by some estimations has over 1M Jewish people living in it, is fed up with Netanyahu. Which is pretty remarkable.
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Talking is realistically all he can do since UN is governed by a pretty complex web of federal law. He’d end up in a standoff with the feds and Mossad. Talking about it is more than any other US politician is doing though.
I think the issue comes from a mayor acting on behalf of a country. You really don’t want that kind of thing. I agree Netanyahu needs to be arrested and tried for his crimes. I just don’t think a mayor could actually do it without federal approval.
Correct. The US is structured with a hierarchy where federal laws supercede state laws supercede local laws.
The US is not (thanks for the correction) an ICC signatory and is
supposedlytherefore not obligated to comply with Netanyahu’s arrest warrant and ship him to The Hague,butso the ICC can’t compel the US federal government to actually do anything about it.As much as it is a crime drama meme, diplomatic immunity is still a thing and would preclude his arrest (be it for a local law or attempted compliance with the ICC warrant) as long as the fed asserts that he has diplomatic immunity.
So this is a situation where the only practical option available to try to hold him accountable is vigilantism.
The US is an ICC signatory and is supposedly obligated to comply
Not anymore. Clinton signed the treaty but never submitted it for ratification, so the US technically was never part of the ICC, and Bush “un-signed” it, absolving the US of any responsibilities whatsoever.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_International_Criminal_Court
I mean, they could arrest him and immediately get him on a private plane to an ICC country, or the Netherlands, direct to The Hague.
Handling it the way ICE does sending people to various places, including internationally before the courts have a chance to do anything. Malicious compliance.
Good call, thanks for the correction.
He can most certainly be arrested. He can’t be prosecuted. “You can beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride”
A bullshit arrest would be great political theater for the mayor.
I mean there’s a purely mechanical issue as well, in that Netanyahu would have a bunch of his own armed security, plus US diplomatic security.
Just because a country isn’t “obligated” doesn’t mean they can’t or shouldn’t do what is right.
He just needs to put Riggs and Murtaugh on it. Ezpz
So that’s why you can’t legally buy pot in NY, right? Because of the federal law making it illegal?
Oh, wait……
There are two reasons he can’t do anything.
First is the idea that when the UN chose to place its HQ in New York, the US likely had to agree to safe passage for all diplomats and officials going to the General Assembly. That just makes sense. The UN can’t function if the Host Nation gets to control who goes to the meetings.
Second, the US isn’t a party to the ICC in the first place, and doesn’t formally recognize its jurisdiction. IMO, this is actually the correct position, because the ICC as it is currently run does not guarantee all the protections that US courts grant its citizens, so the US could not subject its citizens to it. (Even Bill Clinton, who signed the treaty at first, acknowledged this and did not send the treaty to the Senate for ratification. George W Bush “un-signed” the treaty a few years later).
So, it really would be impossible for a local police force to arrest a foreign leader with diplomatic immunity on the warrant of a court which is not recognized by the government.
The USA doesn’t recognise the ICC because they do not want their citizens to be subjected to it. There are quotes from senior officials and diplomats essentially saying that the USA agrees with the concept of the ICC but only for lawless countries where people who violate international law are unlikely to be held to account. Essentially it is a humdinger of an example of “rules for thee but not for me” creedo. The US hides behind its UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) as a panacea excusing it from subjecting itself to the rules it wants to enforce on the rest of the world. The argument is that the UCMJ is sufficient to enforce accountability and international law, and that the ICC is superfluous. It’s a tenuous argument at best and ultimately shelters the USDF from international accountability for their actions.
There are legitimate concerns about American participation in the ICC:
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the US Constitution guarantees jury trials for major offenses, and the ICC doesn’t use them
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the US Constitution states that the US Supreme Court has appellate jurisdiction over all other courts, and there is no room for an international court to fit in that structure
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US courts claim jurisdiction over US citizens who commit crimes on US soil, and there is no mechanism to insert the ICC into that.
So it’s not just that the US doesn’t want to play nice, there are things in the structure of the ICC that violate the US Constitution. Those contradictions would have to be resolved before the US can join, either by changing the ICC or changing the US Constitution.
I’m pretty sure that’s the same in most other countries, at the very least the highest court jurisdiction, yet somehow they were able to still be part of the ICC
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He’s probably talking about it cause it’s not gonna happen.
BS does seem to work on maggots which is why the lies can flow freely. I know the ICC has no power so why does it exist? I like the idea of political theater by Mandami a lot what’s the down side, losing orange assh as a pretend friend?
Preach! Bonus points if he gets tazed and piled upon as soon as he doesn’t comply.
fucking BASED. This guy is amazing.
Americas Mayor.
But not America’s President. This is way out of his lane.
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Would be a shame if a “malfunctioning” “AI” air traffic controller directed his plane into a tanker truck “mistakenly” left on the runway.
It’s crazy but in current day USA people will go “Oh yeah, that’s just something that happens sometimes.”
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Yeah why does USA not want international law? The U.S. has never ratified the ICC because why would they give up the freedom to do what they want… USA does not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC. The 2002 American Service-Members’ Protection Act (ASPA) literally states that the U.S. will attempt to protect U.S. military personnel and other citizens from ICC persecution, even with military action if necessary. That bill was nicknamed “The Hague Invasion Act” because in theory it authorizes the president to use force to free Americans from ICC prison. They even go as far as using big tech to blackmail members of the ICC that investigate war crimes of the US military (or Israel). crazy.
Neither USA nor Israel is among the 125 signatories of the Rome Statute, which established the ICC in 1998. However, the treaty sets out that nationals of non-member states can be tried for crimes that take place on the territory of states that are signatories. But if mamdami arrests netanyahu and delivers him to The Hague that would be a dream for everyone who wants global peace and justice, probably followed by sanctions from crybaby trump tho lmao
Im probably being awkward or something, but wont there be other Netanyahus?
Its like if Trump goes away, people wont put down their pitchforks and torches and find something else to do.
Just roll up on him like the US marshals did yesterday to the Tate brothers.
Still kind of surprised that happened.
i’d love to see him pull that one off!
It may be he’s just bluffing to keep Netenyahu out of the city.
It’s not a good look for Mamdani to let him in the city while doing nothing about it (or even being forced to provide security for him), but actually arresting him might cause a small civil war.
