• Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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    Ok but the driver ain’t getting charged for that shit right? Sounds like self defense but the “racist slurs” part has me worried bro’s gonna get profiled

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        Mr. Warren was within his right to exit his vehicle and verbally challenge the manner in which Mr. Magnuson was addressing him," Gibbs’ memo reads.

        What the fuck. That is NOT self-defense.

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          The investigation found that Magnuson had acted aggressively, repeatedly taunting Warren with racial slurs and later punching Warren in an ensuing confrontation.

          A memo published by the prosecutor’s office says that Warren’s actions were “in kind” to Magnuson’s escalation. Witnesses said that Warren had attempted to discuss the matter before things became violent and that he appeared “exhausted.”

          Yes it is

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            tit for tat is not a defense. he started it by getting out of the car to confront the man for no good reason.

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              So what? He was just supposed to continue having slurs hurled his way and not get upset about the fact?

              Fuck out of here with that bullshit mindset

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                  Sorry Mr Perfect not everyone has no breaking point, we’ll send you in the next time we need someone to withstand torture though. fkn hell lol

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                  a person subjected to racist slurs is by default the better man than the one hurling the racist slurs.

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                  We’ve had over a decade of “when they go low, we go high” - how well has that worked? Maybe you’ve eaten too many vegetables amateurishly grown in contaminated backyards?

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              Talk shit, get hit. That’s how free speech works. You can say whatever the hell you want but words have consequences and consequences can suck.

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              He got out of the truck because the guy was flipping out at him, and chose to use racist insults to provoke him. A simple proverb that could have helped that racist fuck: don’t let your mouth write a check your ass can’t cash ✨

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                that’s not a good enough reason to get out and is just begging for trouble. it’s extremely aggressive.

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                  It actually is, there’s a legal concept for fighting words that basically acknowledges you can’t prosecute someone for getting provoked when the other guy was very obviously trying to provoke them.

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                  Truck driver didn’t throw the first punch, though. Extremely aggressive would be provoking someone with racial epithets and then proceeding to punch them when they pull over to respond.

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              he started it

              Eeeeh, no? The other guy was hurling racist remarks at him. He went to confront the guy. That is not starting it, that is following up.

              Once the other guy delivered the first punch, the other guy started both the insults and the fight.

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                he was exercising his free speech rights and you think that deserves death?

                following up

                when has that ever solved anything peacefully when the other person is yelling slurs? getting out of the car was the worst possible decision.

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                  Freedom of speech is not freedom from speech bud, don’t act like an asshole and not expect to be treated like an asshole.

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                  He was exercising his fREEEEEdom to fuck around and find out. Also throwing the first punch was the nail in the coffin, so to speak.

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                  … For which he should go to jail?

                  You know what a bad decision is? Yelling slurs and throwing hands when you know you arent in best health

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              You’re not wrong. I never understand the stupidity of escalating a confrontation when a perfectly valid method of avoiding it like walking or driving away exists. Someone calls you a bad name over and over so you have the choice of a) getting out of your vehicle and opening up all kinds of possibilities for shit to go wrong, or b) leave, and nothing else happens.

              So this place is turning out to be just as bloodthirsty as Reddit, looking for fights instead of walking away and then saying FAFO as justification when someone dies. Life is so cheap for some.

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          That’s not your definition of self-defense, but it fits many legal definitions. It says he left his vehicle to verbally challenge him. It also mentions he tried to deescalate via discussion:

          Witnesses said that Warren had attempted to discuss the matter before things became violent and that he appeared “exhausted.”

          He left his vehicle to discuss then the other man threw a punch, at which point he hit the guy back only only once. If someone is yelling and swearing at you, are you supposed to run? You can’t even attempt to talk it out or you lose your right to self defense?

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          Unless you have been physically attacked or have a reasonable belief that you will be imminently attacked, physical violence is always unwarranted. Everyone arguing otherwise is a violent dumbass.

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            Cool so you agree that getting out of his vehicle to talk to the guy was alright, since there was no physical violence until the other individual threw the first punch.

            Glad we got that straightened out.

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      He could dish it out, but got a dish back in his face and fuckin died. It’s like karmatic poetry or sumthn

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    I hate to break it to you brother, but that guy was not sent to heaven.

    Also, self defence argument holds here. Someone was running his mouth, he also ran his. Someone threw a punch, he returned fire. No escalation. Self defence

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      We don’t know for sure but I certainly HOPE he wasn’t sent straight to heaven without going through some serious and difficult reformation of the soul first

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      it says “sent him to God” no mention of Heaven. God being the energy of the universe that makes up all things in which we return to once our bodies piss off the right FedEx delivery guy (or girl)

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    Ok, I’ve heard about those that get punched once and cry, but this is a whole other, video game level shit.

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      It happens if you get hit in the head. The skull isn’t actually all that good at protecting the brain after all.

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      San Francisco just held its annual wild costumed (or naked) race yesterday. Reminded of this story:

      I can’t stand fighting or videos thereof. Hitting someone means you’re willing to kill someone. Surely only happens <0.1% of the time. But should be reserved for safety issues (self defense), not genitalia measuring.

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        Yesterday! That’s right, two decades ago my wife and I were visiting SF at this time of year, right around the Bay To Breakers.

        To this day I cannot fully wrap my head around the concept that a city would host such a peculiar event with mass public nudity, and I applaud it, a non-prudish attitude towards one’s own body is a healthy attitude, at minimum it’s a step in the right direction.

        But instead of going to see the Bay To Breakers, we opted for something… shall we say… a little more refined, more spiritual? We attended Sunday morning service at an African Orthodox church.

        There I was, an atheist, dragging my wife to Sunday mass, so what gives? This was something special, The Church Of Saint John Coltrane. Three hour service, two and a half of 'em live jazz, with around 10 or 12 musicians.
        Afterwards, we congratulated the bishop for the extraordinary experience, and at his recommendation, my wife and I had lunch at a soul food restaurant nearby.

        That was a special, special Sunday, I do not regret missing out on the Bay To Breakers that day.

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    Damn that sucks. Pretty sure he didn’t want to kill the dude. Big guys need to keep pepper spray on them. Guy I knew threw a retaliatory punch outside a club. Recipient’s head hit the curb. Dead as latin. Now that guy’s in prison. Not fuckin worth it.

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      Yeah, a long time ago, when I was working security at a very large hospital, we had a person kicked out of the ER for abusing staff. In the drive way to the ER he started refusing to leave. We radio the local police patrol. Three cops show up. After about 45 minutes of trying to talk him into leaving, he pulled out a knife and lunged. So I punched him in the side of his head, towards the back. He dropped dead. He had an aneurysm and that blow ruptured it, instantly killing him.

      Luckily for me, the person he was trying to stab was a cop, so there was no question of criminal charges.

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      I’m a really big dude and that shit terrifies me. Some people like to target fat folks thinking they’re out of shape. And I am very, very out of shape.

      But the fact that I can get out of bed and walk up stairs effortlessly means I’m incredibly, incredibly strong. What most people lift when maxing out is what I lift every time I move.

      If I throw a punch in anger, I could easily kill.

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        Calm down bro, being overweight is not turning you into Mike Tyson immediately. You know, an unskilled fist punch to the face of another man can also result in hurting or partly breaking your own hand.

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          Iunno bruh it sounds like he studied the blade :D But fr if he’s big enough to knock you down, its the pavement - not the punch that kills you.

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          Absolutely. But a broken hand can still have force behind it.

          And not that it matters, but I do know how to throw a punch. And there’s a big gap between “how hard someone expects a punch to be” and "world champion boxer heavyweight boxer. "

          Mike Tyson could definitely kill with a punch.

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          Eh… Mike Tyson isn’t famous because his first punch hits hard, it’s because he can do more than a few swings and knows what he is doing.

          The point the other commenter was making is that there is more force behind a punch from a large person vs a tiny person. Not that they have some magical fighting ability because they are overweight.

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    Unrelated: Why does it say FederalExpress Express on the truck? Is that like LCD display, but double fast, not double display?

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      I think it’s because Federal Express the company has services which includes ground and express. Some trucks are marked FedEx ground so this is to mark that it’s the express service truck I guess.

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        Furthermore, FedEx Express drivers are employed by FedEx. FedEx Ground drivers are all working for a bunch of contractors, similar to how Amazon runs their delivery service.

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        This is correct. When I was working there in a warehouse, we were technically a FedEx SmartPost which dealed mainly with sprinter vans, but would help out for the ground freight and express. When I was leaving I think they were getting rid of SmartPost and rolling them into Ground or Express. Fedex Air is also it’s own thing.

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      It’s because the name of the company is just FedEx now. They don’t use “federal express” in anything that I’m aware of.

      FedEx Express is what used to be called Federal Express. It’s just one of the operating companies under the umbrella of “FedEx corporation.”

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      Next Day: Succumbs to his injuries a day later

      Second Day: you guessed it

      Ground: Drives to the hospital

      Express: Ambulance

      Air Express: Medevac helicopter