At the Young Republican mixer Friday evening a group of Nazis, who openly identified as national socialists, mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed race science and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

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              Even though it is an Abrahamic Religion, the founding concept is Unity Through Diversity. They forgot that El, aka Yahweh, was a God of War back in The Bronze Age Collapse, and focused on the hippy commune part of Christ’s teachings.

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          Can we take that rune back? I’m pretty big on family, although the patriotism bit I could probably do without

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              Hell yeah, loyalty to your local tribe of weirdos(said affectionately)? I can fully get behind that. When I finally save up enough to get my shoulder tat, I’m gonna include Othala into it

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                  So I finally found some time to read your link and do some general googling found a bindrune created by the “Wayfarers Mark” tumbler called the Initiate’s Bindrune that I like. I’ll definitely look into this stuff more than I have already, and I thank you for showing me this world

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            It is the runic letter Othala. It is just a letter in the runic alphabet. Beyond being a letter though often runes had an individual meeting or association in the cultures that used them.

            It, along with many other symbols were adopted by the Nazis. Now among white power groups it is has a meaning of racial purity. “Keeping the white race pure”

            Oh and the picture is real I looked it up.

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                Maybe but if you look closely at the stage. it is Othala with wings. There are little feet that come up off the legs. An iteration that I believe is exclusively used as a white power symbol. At best it was a massive fuck up, at worst it was a dog whistle. Though ultimately it is a dog whistle, for the people who this symbol has meaning will see it as one.

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              Thanks for the info, I only knew of the swatiska one really , didn’t know that group used several symbols. Kind of not wanting to dig too deep and be flagged is why I don’t know, I guess. Much appreciated for sharing the awareness.

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                Yeah that is fair, it is hard to keep track of everything especially with co-opted symbols. I know I can’t. Though here is an okay rule of thumb with Nazi shit.

                Does it look “Viking/old Germanic”? No - probably not a Nazi, Yes - maybe a Nazi

                Is the person using the symbol new age hippie looking? Yes - probably not a Nazi, No - maybe a Nazi

                I know that leaves a lot of vagueness, but it is a good place to start. Then you can double check any suspects symbols.

                Just remember different groups can have vastly different ideologies and look somewhat similar. For example the SHARPs (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) are very anti Nazi. But just looking at a group of them you might be confused. As they tend to be mostly militant white young men wearing leather with shaved heads.

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                  I hate that that’s not even incorrect as I’ve met multiple Norse pagan antifascists. One common line from them is asserting that Odin is the all father not the some father.

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    This headline is misleading. It should read CPAC is a nazi organization. Something about dining with nazis.

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    Are you telling me the group that used a nazi symbol as the shape of their stage is now openly affiliating themselves with nazis?

    Quelle surprise!

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    This year, however, some attendees and former attendees have expressed frustration with the conference’s stronger association with Trump and his wing of the party.

    If I was frustrated that Nazis are co-opting my political party, I’m kicking them out or leaving the party that welcomes them.

    Anything less, you’re part of a Nazi movement.

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        Goebels was actually quite put out by Hitler not meeting his socialist dreams, but all was forgiven when he got to propagate massive antisemitism instead

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            In late 1924, Goebbels offered his services to Karl Kaufmann, who was Gauleiter (Nazi Party district leader) for the Rhine-Ruhr District. Kaufmann put him in touch with Gregor Strasser, a leading Nazi organiser in northern Germany, who hired him to work on their weekly newspaper and undertake secretarial work for the regional party offices.[41] He was also put to work as party speaker and representative for Rhineland-Westphalia.[42] Strasser founded the National Socialist Working Association on 10 September 1925, a short-lived group of about a dozen northern and western German Gauleiter; Goebbels became its business manager and the editor of its biweekly journal, NS-Briefe.[43] Members of Strasser’s northern branch of the Nazi Party, including Goebbels, had a more socialist outlook than the rival Hitler group in Munich.[44] Strasser disagreed with Hitler on many parts of the party platform, and in November 1926 began working on a revision.[45]

            Hitler viewed Strasser’s actions as a threat to his authority, and summoned 60 Gauleiters and party leaders, including Goebbels, to a special conference in Bamberg, in Streicher’s Gau of Franconia, where he gave a two-hour speech repudiating Strasser’s new political programme.[46] Hitler was opposed to the socialist leanings of the northern wing, stating it would mean “political bolshevization of Germany.” Further, there would be “no princes, only Germans,” and a legal system with no “Jewish system of exploitation … for plundering of our people.” The future would be secured by acquiring land, not through expropriation of the estates of the former nobility, but through colonising territories to the east.[45] Goebbels was horrified by Hitler’s characterisation of socialism as “a Jewish creation” and his assertion that a Nazi government would not expropriate private property. He wrote in his diary: “I no longer fully believe in Hitler. That’s the terrible thing: my inner support has been taken away.”[47]

            Joseph Goebbels | Wikipedia

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      Just because it needs to be pointed out every time. If they were frustrated by fascists/Nazis co-opting the party. They’re 100 years too late.

      The father and grandfather of 2 American presidents was implicated. As well as the head of JP Morgan at the time. No one was punished, or called out even. And the history of the incident has largely been completely scrubbed out of existence.

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        According to Katz, “Prescott Bush was too involved with the actual Nazis to be involved with something that was so home grown as the business plot.”

        It’s ok, Prescott wasn’t plotting to overthrow the US with those fringe Nazis, he was too busy working with the real Nazis!

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      i mean if you look at history, there wete nazi sympathizers and enemies of the nazis.

      A lot of things in this world are grey. this is not one of them.

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    No that can’t be.

    Conservatives are always telling us how Nazis were actually left-wing… it’s in the name, socialists?!

    How quickly they forget, once the racist and antisemitic nonsense circulates.

    And if anyone is wondering:

    • Human rights for Palestinians = not antisemitic
    • Nazis at CPAC = 100% antisemitic
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    But this year, racist conspiracy theorists didn’t meet any perceptible resistance at the conference where Donald Trump has been the keynote speaker since 2017.

    At the Young Republican mixer Friday evening, a group of Nazis who openly identified as national socialists mingled with mainstream conservative personalities, including some from Turning Point USA, and discussed so-called “race science” and antisemitic conspiracy theories.

    One member of the group, Greg Conte, who attended the deadly 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, said that his group showed up to talk to the media. He said that the group was prepared to be ejected if CPAC organizers were tipped off, but that never happened.

    Another, Ryan Sanchez, who was previously part of the Nazi “Rise Above Movement,” took photos and videos of himself at the conference with an official badge and touted associations with Fuentes.

    Other attendees in Sanchez’s company openly used the N-word.

    republiQans: this is you

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    How do you spread Nazi rhetoric at CPAC? Sell merch? Because one would think market saturation would already be at 100% for that sort of ideology at an event like that.

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    I heard Paul Gosar shaves his butthole once a year in preparation for this mixer.

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    In other news:

    Skiers mingle openly at ski resort.

    Golfers mingle openly at country club.

    Trekkies mingle openly at ComicCon

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    So there’s definitely a Zionist wing of the party. What’s gonna happen when they come into contact with the Nazi wing of the party?

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      A lot of the support of Israel is not because they like Jews but rather because many evangelicals believe supporting them will hasten the apocalypse.

      A 2017 LifeWay poll conducted in United States found that 80% of evangelical Christians believed that the creation of Israel in 1948 was a fulfillment of biblical prophecy that would bring about Christ’s return and more than 50% of Evangelical Christians believed that they support Israel because it is important for fulfilling the prophecy.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

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        Also, shipping the Jews off to Israel means they’re away from here. Zionism could be restated as “Jewish removal.”

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          Exactly. They don’t like when some of us say that Jews belong in our communities alongside us non-Jews. When we encourage people to celebrate their presence as an important part of our community and culture

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        Goddamn we are a bonkers species. Really gives credence to the idea of memetic evolution, at least to me

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        This is the increasingly stupid part. The fuck are they gonna do when Christ gets back? He’s a straight up communist, they have no use for him. Hmm… I wonder.

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      It seems like a lot of Nazis tend to make common cause with Zionists. Remember that the first plan the Nazis had was to deport all the Jews, so having them all in one place is fine by them.

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          A lot of racists don’t think they’re racist because they don’t hate “others”, they just think they belong in their own place. They’re angry that the “others” are where they are.

          They’re still raging pieces of shit. I’m just sharing some of their thoughts. Being a white drunk in Texas gives me the opportunity to hear all kinds of dumb shit.

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      They all set aside their differences and appreciate their true goals of enriching themselves through being fascist bootlickers

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      The Zionist wing of the Republican party doesn’t care at all about Jews. They’re Christian fundamentalists who believe that the Jews need to control the holy land so that Jesus can come back and end the world. They only want the Jews in Israel long enough to fulfill that purpose, then they want them to be wiped out and go to hell.

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      They’re the same wing. They believe that the current Jewish state isn’t Jewish enough and that the true Judaism is actually Christianity.

      I wish I was kidding, but I actually know people that fall into this camp.

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    Does anyone remember this?

    House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y. — who recently went viral for engaging in a contentious exchange with university presidents at a congressional hearing on antisemitism — on Saturday praised the resignation of University of Pennsylvania President Liz Magill.

    “One down. Two to go,” Stefanik wrote on X. “This is only the very beginning of addressing the pervasive rot of antisemitism that has destroyed the most ‘prestigious’ higher education institutions in America.”

    So where the f**k is she now, during CPAC? Is she hiding out or something?

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    Conservatives and Republicans are synonymous with Russians and Nazis. The CPAC convention is the indisputable proof.