• whodatdair@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Hilarious. Logitech’s software has always been an afterthought and now they want me to pay for it? Goooo fuck yourselves. I had to sell a perfectly good keyboard and mouse because their stupid g-hub is harder to navigate than a g-spot.

    It kept doing updates and every time it did, it would clobber all my macros and bindings and basically factory reset. I had a txt document on my desktop with all my configs so I could set them back up whenever it decided the configuration gods required a sacrifice.

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      G-hub also doesn’t work on Linux, which is actually a massive advantage. I use Solaar with a couple of shell scripts and it’s amazing. (edit) Actually it’s a Python app, so it might even work on Windows.

      I’ve also had to blacklist the HID++ kernel module because high-res scrolling on a loose, mushy ratcheting wheel is awful.

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      I started boycotting them when they started forcing a program to be downloaded, installed and run automatically on any pc running Windows 10 just by plugging a Logitech mouse/keyboard in to the USB port.

      It installes through Windows Update, and is called Logitech Download Helper.

      I am fine with Windows Update supplying and installing drivers, but using it to deploy program is scummy…

      So now, I am on Xtrfy mice and Ducky keyboards.

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      G Hub doesn’t work with my old trusty G11 keyboard either. Since it’s both required for Logitech’s newer peripherals and also requires uninstalling the old Logitech Gaming Software which would reduce the functionality of my keyboard, it effectively banishes any future consideration for Logitech’s peripherals.

      It’s basically moot since I run Linux now, but I don’t fancy the quality of Logitech’s products either these days. It’s a shame since their stuff used to be really solid. My X540 speakers are as old as my keyboard (16 years) and also refuse to die.

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      Oh man I was hoping this would be a sub for alternatives to subscriptions, rather than just pointing out that everything is going to a subscription model.

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        It’s not against the rules of that community to post alternatives. I suspect the community members would love that.

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          Alternative to subscription based mouse…any other fucking mouse. Hell, I’d rather use that piece of crap they sell at walgreens for $15.99. It looks like crap, has only 2 buttons, is wired, but it doesn’t have a damn subscription.

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            I like my Intellimouse Pro. I haven’t had a single issue with clicking or scrolling for as long as I’ve had it (5+ years?). It’s a bit pricey, but it works well. I’ve spent more replacing Logitech mice in the time I’ve had that one.

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              Mine has left click, right click, scroll wheel, back, forward, and a programable button which I use to switch windows.

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            I got two like that from China for about 2 bucks each, shipping included.

            Nowadays a shitty 15 cent microcontroller comes with built-in USB hardware support and you can use the manufacturer’s libraries or even Arduino to make it talk as a keyboard or mouse with any computer (which doesn’t even need drivers since support for it is built-in) and it’s actually the mechanical stuff that’s the most expensive bit.

            There really is no reason or need to endure this mouse subscription shit.

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        I always give “companyname@personaldomain.com”

        That way datasets are harder to correlate and I know who leaked 😝

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          That’s what I’ve been doing since 2002. If I get spam, I set up a forward to their customer service.

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            Lol! I need to start doing something like this when one of those email addresses eventually ends up in a breach. :D

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              Be wary though, it might get your domain blacklisted for spam. I’ve been lucky so far.

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                Good to know! Thanks for the warning. c: My default course of action will likely be just disabling the old alias and making a new one.

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      Oh neat, I think I might subscribe to that community.

      Wait a goddamned minute

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    A comment on the article: “I will go back to a command line before I pay a fucking subscription for a mouse.”

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      A mouse is not a complex device. African countries can produce computer mice. I mean, using USB requires paying for the license and circuitry for the USB controller, which is why I hate USB for simple periphery, older interfaces solve the problem better. Anyways, they can produce USB mice too. They can even easier produce PS/2 mice.

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        Damn, that’s pretty racist. You know I come from an “African country” that produces Mercedes right, or like, did the first heart transplant.

        Im not sure what you’re trying to infer by what you’re saying, like we’re all some backwards ass fuckwits with 0 ability to do anything? Fuck, we used to produce our own RAM at a stage. Nuclear bombs even.

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          South Africa excluded as a former colonial state.

          Im not sure what you’re trying to infer by what you’re saying, like we’re all some backwards ass fuckwits with 0 ability to do anything? Fuck, we used to produce our own RAM at a stage. Nuclear bombs even.

          I live in Russia, I could have written “ex-USSR and African countries” so that you’d not feel offended. Would have the same meaning.

          Point being having actual electronics production and not assembly.

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            The irony of somebody from Russia calling anywhere else a shithole is just profound. Don’t you guys have to pour water in your toilets to flush them? The rest of the world has indoor plumbing mate, even Africa.

            Anyway everyone knows that China produces all of the cheap crap anyway, so why wouldn’t you go at them?

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              Don’t you guys have to pour water in your toilets to flush them?

              Are you high or something? Why would we?

              The rest of the world has indoor plumbing mate, even Africa.

              I would expect an entire continent to have some variability.

              Anyway everyone knows that China produces all of the cheap crap anyway, so why wouldn’t you go at them?

              China produces all of the crap. Without the “cheap” constraint.

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              Not in every dimension, but in that of producing computer mice yes it is. Which is all that is relevant to this conversation.

              By the way, I know that sub-Saharan Africa in general is becoming better very fast, and that Sahel has record population growth, and that Africa as a continent has bright future.

              While Russia may hope for that only after a fucking revolution.

              These are just irrelevant.

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          It’s complex enough if you are making some hobbyist device.

          I’m imagining some world with production of anything related to personal computers being as decentralized as that of hand screwdrivers.

          In that context USB is complex.

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          I’m not trying to disagree here but I was curious, this is what I discovered:

          "Yes, it is possible to make a USB device without paying the licensing fee, but there are limitations and risks involved:

          1. No USB Logo: You won’t be able to use the official USB logo on your product or marketing materials. The USB logo signifies that the product has passed compliance testing and adheres to USB standards.

          2. Compliance Issues: Without certification, there is no guarantee that your device will be fully compliant with USB specifications. This could lead to interoperability issues with other USB devices and systems.

          3. Legal Risks: Using USB technology without proper licensing and certification might expose you to legal risks if the USB-IF enforces its intellectual property rights.

          4. Market Perception: Consumers and businesses often prefer certified products as they are deemed reliable and trustworthy. Lacking certification might affect your product’s market acceptance.

          Despite these challenges, some manufacturers choose to proceed without licensing, especially for low-cost or experimental products. However, for commercial and mass-market products, obtaining proper certification is generally advisable to ensure quality and legal compliance."