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Biden’s office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
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This morning while driving to work I heard on NPR that doctors recommend screenings for people between 50 and 60 years of age. The guy said that older people like 70’s and 80’s have more problems and I missed exactly what the reasoning other than aggravating them with one more problem was for not screening that group actively.
But you and I know. Its simple! 50 and 60 year olds are still working do they got money. 80 year olds don’t have money. No reason to screen them. Sure the treatments work…kinda sorta. But the treatments are expensive. So if you’re 80 its not important that they find your cancer because they can’t make money from you. If you’re well to do, then sure, we can try our methods. But if you got no money, there’s no point. What are you going to do anyway with no job and no money. Even if you could pay, then what? Sell the car and house and live on the streets? Would that be worse? Not really the doctors don’t care if they got paid. Its all about the money.
Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).
Good luck Biden.
I wish Joe well. Terrible thing to have to deal with.
Why can’t the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
Since this is an opportunity to educate people about health, I will not discuss politics here. :)
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If you’re a guy, your urinary tract is stupidly complicated from a medical viewpoint and there’s a prostate beneath the bladder which hydrogenates testosterone (T is produced by the brain) into dihydrotestosterone, produces fluid to mix the seminal fluid with, and generally supports fertility and gender specific phenotype.
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With progressing age, the prostate enlarges, gets infected with HPV (nearly everyone gets it) and may get bacterial infections (typical ones are E. coli). It may also develop calcinations.
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Risk is reduced if you live in Asia and eat a traditional menu containing much soy bean products which enables guys in those regions to enjoy several times less prostate cancer.
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Risk is increased with nearly every urinary tract infection, especially if not conclusively diagnosed and treated.
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After the age of 40, regularly have PSA (prostate specific antigen) measured from a blood test. It tells how much disintegration and immune reaction is occurring down there.
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Regularly have ultrasound check-ups done. If there are UTI symptoms, treatment must not occur blindly, but must be followed by observation.
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If you are young and your home country has medical insurance that covers HPV vaccination, get it while it’s free (because it costs 150 € a dose). If you’re rich enough, there may be a point in getting it later too, especially if you’ve not had unsafe sex (it doesn’t protect after infection). The majority of people get HPV during their lives and approximately 9 strains cause cervical cancer in women and raise the risk of prostate cancer in men. By getting vaccinated against HPV, you protect both yourself and your partners from drawing a ticket in a quite nasty lottery.
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As long as prostate cancer is androgen dependent, it can be suppressed with an androgen blockade.
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I always love the cognitive dissonance people have seeing others hope that a man directly responsible for a metric ton of civilian deaths, succumbing to a painful death, is not ethically correct.
I mean people seem to have zero issue with United Healthcare. Exorbitant Healthcare costs is the equivalent of death, but literally bombing hospitals and refugee camps isn’t?
Not to mention that he’ll be receiving the latest and greatest in medical aid anyway, so there’s a fair chance he’ll survive. A lot of geriatric asshat world leaders contracted covid and still lived.
I can’t even tell if this is DNC shilling because several people have implied they would treat Trump the same. Wth kind of moral compass are yall following lol?
This is sad. Taking into account of how he was treated by the DNC and how 2024 went down, this is just the shit cherry on the shit sundae.
This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there’s a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.
We can acknowledge Joe Biden’s crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.
We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to ‘communism vs capitalism’ or ‘democracy vs fascism’ arguments.
I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.
What are these comments? You people are vile.
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.
Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.
ass related illness
Now there’s a phrasing…
I’m not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren’t releasing the information.
He won’t ever get cancer or get sick or catch a disease. He will be “poisoned by the radical left” and Maggots will say “they’ve gone too far” and calls to ban the party from the shithole MAGAs will come out along the words “treason” being thrown out there.
If he goes the fuck away from old age (which is more likely based on how reality works) he will be “assassinated.”
No matter how his end will be, there will be calls to prosecute and execute “traitors responsible.” If he does become president for life the “traitor” will be coincidentally the candidate on the opposing party. That’s if by that point if we even have elections a anymore. He could be geriatric in a fucking wheelchair and they will say this mark my words.
Because they know after trump they will be utterly fucked to legally be elected back to power. (At least I hope)
This is so like medieval times where we just are praying that the king dies.
I mean, we know his health report was a sham. The dude reported that Trump only has like 5% body fat. Even the most shredded body builders struggle to hit 5%.
That was satire. A body fat figure was never reported.
Can you cite the source for that? Because that claim simply could not have been made without sounding like a goddamn moron.
It’s hard to not sound like a moron when you’re an absolute moron
lol 5% body fat. fucking hilarious.
The zero key was broken from putting the payoff checks into Excel
Even if it was true, too little body fat comes with its own bag of health issues. (Metabolism, cardiovascular, vitamin uptake, brain function…)
Anything is possible. Prostate cancer is far more common than most people realize…there is an easy to remember true statistic – 80% of all men over 80 have prostate cancer. That’s 4 out of 5. It very often tends to be so slow growing that it’s simply not an issue, really, you’ll have more pressing health concerns that will kill you first.
It’s good to check, then once it is identified, either dealt with or monitored with regular frequency.
It has already metastasized in his bones, so it’s much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, three 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it’s also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I’m assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I’m not a medical professional, so I can’t say how valid this assumption is.
Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It’s so funny and scary.
Trump has already issued a generic sympathy statement, “Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.”
yes, but for most of those men it’s a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.
What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can’t afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?
its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the “slow growing ones”. even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer
Understood. Yeah my post was more of a PSA, baking general knowledge into people’s brains. Everybody freaks out when they hear the word “cancer”, and they should know…prostate cancer in old men is different. But this one is aggressive & mutating & it’s metastasized into the bones, etc.
I know it’s possible, but I also get the impression he’s going to outlive all of us somehow.
It’s that pesky top-of-the-line health care he has access to.
Putting my hopes on infected hemorrhoids
He probably got a dirty ass.
With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he’s sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.
“Yoav Galant is a pretty good guy.”
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven’t been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
My MAGA father-in-law also has prostate cancer. I bet dollar to donut he’s going to be positively giddy hearing this news.
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Watch your aim dude!
Ugh, first that kid only getting his ear and now THIS?
do better
When they sending time travellers, they aren’t sending their best. 🤦♂️
This is why some religions point themselves before the praying starts.
Tbf, Trump’s health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don’t know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
Fuck these down voters.
No harm done
Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won’t make it to the end of the current administration.
He won’t live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump’s arrest.
I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn’t fight back against the fascist hard enough.
It is interesting that the medical examination before and during his presidency should have included cancer examination? I thought it is common practice to do a test every 2 years or so…
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
That’s no mystery. If there were primaries, someone to his left might win them.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term.
Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don’t want power. It’s all automatic to them at this point. They don’t know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.
If he won a second term and died then somebody other than Vance and Musk would be running the show, at least.
Even while dying he’s stilling participating in fundraising for the DNC.
He will be missed.
Yeah it seems fundraising is more important to the DNC than improving the country. But then again the people who pay big money to politics aren’t happy with a better country. That would mean less wealth for them and more dignity fir everyone else.
Well the DNC platform was about fucking over anybody with more a than a million dollars in stocks and they still managed to out finance the fascist party (as long as you don’t count buying out social media platforms and newspapers) so your comment seems really out of touch.
And yet none of that has ever happened regardless of how well the Dems do at the ballot box.
There it is! The reason people don’t trust the dems. Complete ignorance of actual policy and history.
It’s quite the opposite actually. Actual policy and history demonstrate that they absolutely do not follow through with their claims and promises. You seem to be ignorant of both of these while basing your opinion off the empty rhetoric they spout in the media.
Their most landmark legislation in the past 20 years was the ACA, which they passed when they held a supermajority in government and didn’t need any Republican support, and yet they decided to drop single-payer in order to pass a Republican healthcare plan that cemented the private insurance model into law while increasing government subsidies to insurance companies meaning even more of our tax dollars are funneled into executive and shareholder pockets while people are still struggling to afford skyrocketing healthcare costs. They didn’t need any Republican support (nor did they receive it) yet they still chose to screw the American people with this bill. How do you explain that?
They also just unanimously voted to pass an internet censorship bill along with all but two Republicans. Trump has stated that he will use this bill to silence his critics and every single Dem Representative voted in favor of it.
They also passed the Republican government spending bill which retroactively legalized all the illegal DOGE cuts they’d been making.
Maybe you should stop listening to the empty promises and virtue signaling and start looking at their actual actions. Modern Dems are to the right of Reagan even if they claim otherwise.
They had a 60 seat majority for like 8 months before Kennedy died. And as noted by other comments, one of those votes was a “no” if they tried to do any better.
But it was also partly a victim of Obama’s early policy of negotiating with himself to try and appear bipartisan. It took him too long to realize the GOP isn’t a good faith opposition party.
They held a supermajority WITH INDEPENDENT CAUCUS and one of those independents demanded they drop even the PUBLIC-OPTION version in order to pass any version of the bill.
Then the S.2073 bill you mentioned, it had 3 nay votes, 2 R and 1 D, and also 6 Not Voting 3 R and 3 D. It restricts very specific actions taken by companies targeting those of age 13 or younger, with a pretty massive list of exceptions. FULL TEXT HERE. It’s actually pretty cool, IMO, it bans data gathering of the children, infinite scrolling feeds, personalized recommendations, notifications, or in-game purchases in the context of platforms targeting children of age 13 or younger.
He’s 82, he’s not going to “make it” regardless
if you’re going with “regardless”, might as well add that none of us will "make it’. spoiler alert, we all die at the end.
I don’t believe you. /s
We don’t know that. It’s statistically likely, but it’s possible that due to advances in technology, the first person to cure aging is already alive today.
We’ve also been talking about curing it for years and it hasn’t happened, so maybe live your life like you’re dying and be pleasantly surprised if we cure it.
Be kind, please.
They were being kind.
These types of people are not really kind to poor brown Arabs. Go watch like cartoons or something.
So kind. I kindly ask him to die and rest in piss.
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No
Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10…9…8…
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don’t have to:
Melania and I are saddened to hear about Joe Biden’s recent medical diagnosis. We extend our warmest and best wishes to Jill and the family, and we wish Joe a fast and successful recovery.
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He’ll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
This almost made me puke:
Cancer doesn’t care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
Yes. That’s a big reason why a democrat posting in r/conservative calling them classy and wonderful almost made me puke.
As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?
Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn’t write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I’m no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Agreed.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing “pictures of 40 beheaded babies” is depraved.
Agreed.
He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he’s an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
