• socsa@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I mean I legitimately do understand why you’d be so upset if you really believe nothing has changed in 200 years. Because you’d have to be pretty fucking stupid and that shit hurts.

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      8 months ago

      I’m starting to think lead cups may be a good investment if she can drink from one for 200 years.

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      8 months ago

      I think it’s a reference to the Stanley cup craze and subsequent tiktok posting about bioavailable lead in damaged ones

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        8 months ago

        From what I can find the Stanley Cup trophy is made from a silver and nickel alloy, so you should be able to drink from it.

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          From what I can find the Stanley Cup trophy is made from a silver and nickel alloy, so you should be able to drink from it.

          Not sure if you missed it, but Stanley (the company) released an insulated drinking cup through Target that was limited edition and caused a minor craze. It’s not the Stanley cup, the NHL championship trophy.

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            8 months ago

            Notable Events with Stanley in the recent past:

            Stanley does the “limited release” (often seen in the fashion industry, think Supreme) marketing thing, creating a bit of hype around their cups.

            A woman in TikTok posted a video of how her car burned down, but her Stanley cup survived and there was still ice in it. This video goes viral and the CEO of Stanley does something for the lady. I can’t remember what exactly but I think he bought her a car?

            The Target × Stanley collaboration results in fistfights at retail locations over the limited edition colorway.

            Since we’re in that late-stage of capitalism, Stanley cups are a hot commodity for resellers and scalpers. Generally, resellers and scalpers try to buy their goods to resell but one lady decided to skip that whole step and just steal like $2000 USD (retail) of Stanley cups.

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        8 months ago

        That sounds incredibly stupid. What kind of testing was done to suggest this? Surely the FDA would have a thing or two to say about it.

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          8 months ago

          IIRC it’s a part of the vacuum-sealed thermal insulation of the cup, which is covered by stainless steel. So it’s fairly resistant to damage, they do a lifetime warranty, and if the seal is broken, the thermally insulating function of the bottle is compromised anyway. I guess that’s enough for the FDA? Obviously ideally you’d just prefer no lead at all? It was apparently charcoal until 2008.

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            8 months ago

            Ah yeah, I’m seeing people saying it’s the solder joining some internal parts together, so that’s a total non-issue. But still… this is the one place where I wouldn’t defend leaded solder over the leadless alternatives.

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        8 months ago

        I do and I haven’t! But I tested my paint chips… I guess they’re sweet for some other reason :'(

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        8 months ago

        Cheaper, easier to work with, melts at lower temps, flows better, take your pick.

        That being said, why they aren’t spot welded is a mystery. I suppose solder is a better connection, but still. Why take the chance?

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          8 months ago

          Looking at the lead from this link someone posted below - that isn’t something you can spot weld. Generally I’d say soldering can create air/liquid tight seals, spot welding can’t.

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          Humans are too shortsighted not to go extinct…

          You ever washed anything in your kitchen sink with other food containers? Some people do and that would immediately put lead residue all over your other surfaces that should be food safe. And also it will absorb through your skin when washing…

          Maybe the weirdest corporate dick sucking ever.

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            8 months ago

            It’s under a plastic cover at the bottom, no water is supposed to go in there unless your cup is broken.

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                  They shouldn’t need to. They should never have included a known toxic material in a drink container

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                Well that’s when you’re supposed to get rid of the cup because… Well… It’s fucking broken!

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                  So as long as people throw away something that still seems useful, they won’t get lead poisoning. What a great way to view the world. You should run the FDA!

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            I 100% agree, lead & similar toxins have no place around our food & water. People use “broken” cups all the time, especially if that damage appears to be purely cosmetic. This will result in people being exposed to lead. It is irresponsible to incorporate lead into food, water storage containers.

            Everyone disagreeing below: weirdest corporate dick sucking ever.

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              8 months ago

              It is irresponsible to incorporate lead into food, water storage containers.

              Precisely!! Not sure how this is remotely controversial

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      8 months ago

      Ontario recently legalized high school students dropping out and getting a full time job before graduating.

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        Well, if they’re gonna drop out they’ll need some kind of experience to make it in the real world later on. Might as well be work experience, I guess.

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          Another way to look at it is that they are being given the choice between:

          • Finishing school, which they may not enjoy, but will set them up to be at least somewhat employable in the future. And introduces the possibility of further education to become even more employable.
          • Getting paid minimum wage, which sounds pretty good when you are living with your parents and aren’t paying for food or rent. But of course is incredibly unstable work and cannot be relied upon to cover living expenses once they’re an adult.
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            You aren’t wrong by any means. It sucks all around, but at least they’re being given the chance to contribute in some small way even if it isn’t ideal. However, I highly doubt any employer they’ll work for will treat them with the respect and dignity they deserve as human beings regardless of their age or circumstances.

            Still, silver linings and all.

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              What exactly is the silver lining? They’re being given an option which feels like a shortcut, but will ultimately harm their future opportunities. And this is at a point when their brain development and life experience is insufficient for them to make a rational decision. Basically the economic realities may coerce them into mortgaging their chances of future success for a quick buck.

              Plus, they aren’t “contributing” to anything except wage suppression. Teenagers are less sensitive to being paid a living wage. This was done by Ontario’s Conservative government as a way to appease the sort of business owner who says “nobody wants to work anymore” while refusing to pay more than starvation wages.

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        I mean the point of the article is that these are companies violating the law. Child labor is neither legal or common in the US.

        In the US you can work when you turn 15 if you get permission from your parents and a school guidance counselor.

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          8 months ago

          15? Apparently, the lowest minimum age is 9, and one state doesn’t have a minimum age. Use the handy little map on this site to find those gems and some other interesting tidbits!

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      8 months ago

      Florida is currently trying to roll back child labor laws so children can work construction and roofing

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      8 months ago

      Yeah, we all know asbestos would make a better insulator for your coffee and whatnot.

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        8 months ago

        “I don’t normally do followup videos on Project Farm, but this is truly incredible! It’s been three days and the coffee in this mug still feels as hot as my lungs!”

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          I… I’ve honestly never heard that question before. I imagine it’s not great since the problem is the tiny sharp fibers cutting up your lungs. I’m sure chewing asbestos would make your gums feel spicy.

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          Man, you just reminded me about how much I used to love stealing pieces of solder off the spool in my dad’s office. I loved how I could bend and tear metal with my bare hands like Superman. I loved forming it into a spiral and pretending it was a coin. Then I’d bite and bend it like Underdog. Sometimes I’d just chew on it cuz it was kinda sweet.

          One day, my dad got a new kind of solder that didn’t taste as good.

          Anyway, it turns out I’m a moron…

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          Until the plastic falls off and you handle it, wash it, etc.

          As for pipes whataboutism, how about we stop introducing new products with lead?

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              At this point you should read your own link. From the description of how it works, it doesn’t sound like a critical part at all. It’s part of the plastic flair on the outside. The cup is still perfectly functional and insulating.

              I guarantee you’ve used many things after a piece of nonfunctional plastic broke off.

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              Right I read that. It confirms lead is present in the bottom of the container.

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                At the bottom, on the side that’s not in contact with your drink, under a plastic cover…

                Man, people are flipping out while they probably drink water from copper pipes with lead solders at home and they never worried about it when these are actually in contact with their water!

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                  Yes you’re intentionally ignoring the fact that washing the fucking thing causes lead exposure to anyone unaware of this issue. Copper pipes from 40 years ago aren’t really relevant to the Convo. Not sure why you’re simping so hard.