There will soon come a time when I am only able to shop for a new car at a junkyard.
Get a horse, gonna be cheaper it seems. And you don’t have to pay for heated seats haha
Have you seen the prices for oats these days!?
Yes… but, grass goes in, fast comes out, use your horse for lawn care services lol
Imagine pulling up to a red light, checking your GPS for directions, and suddenly, the entire screen is hijacked by an ad. That’s the reality for some Stellantis owners. Instead of seamless functionality, drivers are now forced to manually close out of ads just to access basic vehicle functions.
Oh HELLLLL no. I hope my 2012 Subaru will last until I’m either dead or too old to drive. I don’t even want to have these damn screens for the usual shit you have to do on them. I want to be able to do everything with physical controls, no eavesdropping, and no dependence on a fucking app or touchscreen to operate anything in my car! I will drive my car while wearing mittens! shakes fist
Classic cars my man.
Aw yeah, 14mpg, two distinct oil leaks, and cabins full of mold because the vintage weather strips failed forty years ago. (I drive a late 90s pickup and am acutely aware of the tradeoffs that come with older cars, even ones that are maintained relatively well.)
Worth it, when the alternative is ads
Maybe we just throw an ad on the windshield… Like a little one… Off to the side?
On unrelated topics, I am now radicalized and I hope that capitalism falls violently
Don’t worry, our choice for each election is capitalism and cruelty free capitalism, it’s always been a matter of time.
It will always be the case that given enough time a capitalist will find a way to convince the public to vote against self interest just a little, and then the snowball starts rolling.
Make the jeep 50% cheaper and I’d deal the ads. Otherwise …
They’ll make it cheaper for awhile to justify it to the public and government and then slowly raise the price so that you’re paying full price AND watching ads.
So Netflix….
YouTube TV
Absolutely fucking not.
Though it does sound like a good kicker for the after market systems to make a comeback.
Not a chance. The new ‘infotainment’ clusters integrate necessary features like climate control to prevent aftermarket replacements in most vehicles. I honestly don’t know if any manufacturers even use the single and double DIN standards anymore.
Mazda is supposedly one of the last major automakers that has mostly physical controls in their cars. Definitely at the top of my list for any future car purchases.
I highly recommend Mazda if this is something you care about. I had a 2016 Mazda 3, and now I have a 2022 Mazda 3. The infotainment is all controlled though a physical knob and buttons, the climate control is all physical buttons. I am not sure if the screen is even a touch screen… I don’t think it is, but I have never attempted to touch it since I was so used to using the physical knob system in my old 2016. The physical buttons are why I picked my current 3 turbo up over the WRX I also tested. The WRX and the other Subaru’s I checked out all annoyed me with forcing use of the touch screen snd buttons to change the climate settings. I hope Mazda never changes that aspect of their cars. Not sure if the other models also do this, but I don’t see why they would.
Also, the climate control is all on smaller screen that just displays info with the climate system. The infotainment has nothing to do with the climate controls.
My 2018 Chev Trax may be the perfect level of tech for my tastes. Climate stuff is all physical, but it has a nice screen that you can hook a phone to through a USB or Bluetooth to pass maps/audio/calls through it with the audio and calls being controllable by buttons on the wheel.
The only actual car operation buttons on the screen are things you wouldn’t do when driving anyhow like decide if it locks automatically or setting the default volume.
Most obnoxious thing it does is keep reminding me that the sat radio subscription is expired when I start it.
My 2023 Mazda has a touch screen but you never actually have to touch it. In fact, they put it far enough away that it is difficult to touch while driving and disable the touch when the car is moving. There are knobs and buttons in-between the front seats that control it. Also none of the important stuff is controlled through the infotainment system, it is just settings, satnav, and radio (or Android Auto/carplay). Not having to interact with a touch surface while driving is one of my favorite features of my car, and there are a lot of other things that I love about it too.
Part of me is annoyed that I didn’t get a Mazda 3 when I got my car back in 2023, I got a 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV Hatchback.
I like the Leon, but it has so much touch controls.
The worst is the controls for the fog lights, heated rear window and defrost.
They are all located on a small touch panel to the right of the steering wheel, it is also angled down making it harder to see.
So if I am driving and the windows start to fog up I need to take my eyes off the road and aim my finger to touch the correct button without touching any other controls as I might be blinding other drivers.
It is a terrible design.
The AC and battery management screens are all under different submenus on the infotainment screen.
The rest of the car is great though, and so far i have not seen any ads on the screen.
Mazda has been flying under the radar doing things right for a long time, in my experience.
I’m currently driving a 2012 Mazda3 that we bought new 13 years ago. It has been completely reliable while our 2013 Honda has needed some repairs. It is fuel efficient (40mg hwy), and it is still fun to drive. In the automatic transmission’s manual-shift mode the shift lever goes in the correct direction for driving dynamics (pull back to upshift, forward to downshift). In the normal automatic drive mode it seems to use an accelerometer to downshift when braking downhill.
My very first car was a mazda MX-6 from the late 80s with a 5-speed manual transmission. I bought it with 180,000 miles as a cheap junk “first car” and drove it for another 40,000 miles over the next few years. It needed some repairs, of course, but it was fun to drive and did a great job getting me around the state while I was in the late college to early independent adult years.
Now I’m middle aged and my drive to work is just a few miles via quiet twisty country road. I think I’m gonna get an MX-5 Miata next. 6-speed and soft top. That sounds nice.
For years I thought a fast dual motor EV sport sedan would be my next vehicle (whatever the non-Tesla model 3 performance equivalent would be) but a roadster would probably make it more fun to get up and leave the house. Plus so much cheaper and, given the small amount of miles I drive, probably more environmentally friendly. It would definitely generate a lot less microplastic pollution form the weight difference alone.
Despite no longer sticking to the DIN standard, and climate controls being integrated into the infotainment system, there still exists a big market for aftermarket infotaiment systems, they just have to be engineered for the specific make of car you have. But they can be bought for most cars that have infotaiment systems that are now outdated
I haven’t replaced a head unit in years, but I’m not surprised the proprietary systems require custom components for replacement. I can’t count the amount of head units I’ve replaced with my own ‘custom’ wire harness to save the $15 it cost for the Metra adapter. Lol
The Chinese won’t be stopped by that. CANBUS integration controlled by a poorly designed app coming to your (2-3 versions old) Android head unit!
Custom flashes are probably more likely given the system integration of the head unit. UBlock for your car. How crazy is that?
Jeep is a Stellantis product. Literally the worst quality auto manufacturer in North America. They are circling the drain and jacking up the prices on their vehicles and making Pikachu faces when they don’t sell. Their only customers are people who don’t know how to research their purchases, and putting advertisement hell into their cars is another example of that. I suspect they will not be in business a decade from now.
I work in the auto industry. Can confirm, Stellantis is in bad shape. I wouldn’t buy anything from them.
What’s confusing is that some great auto brands from Europe are under Stellantis (Peugeot and Citroen at least)
And they’re actually not doing a shitty job in designing or selling their vehicles. It’s mainly the Chrysler brands or basically the US brands under Stellantis. I seriously hope the shit happening in Chrysler doesn’t come trickling down to the other brands
Turns out regulations are good for businesses.
Regulations are definitely excellent for both businesses and consumers in the long term. But businesses are often too stupid to see past ANYTHING “quarterly”.
That depends on the business culture and how good their advisors are. And also the size if the business matter.
But yeah generally angelosaxton companies who have a mangement structure that’s way more in depth than it needs to be fuck these things over
“Either the Line Goes Up or the Rope Goes Up” - evil CEOs everywhere
They’re good for longevity, but they’re bad for quarterly profits. In the US, we care much more for the latter.
Peugeot and Citroën have their own issues in Europe (and technically in America) with the recall of car due to defective airbags.
Out of curiosity, who would you buy from?
Out of the American big three, I have the most confidence in Ford. I’ve worked with engineers at all three, and the ones at Ford are the ones that I felt were most compitent.
That being said, my next car will probably be a Toyota or a Subaru. Both way better than the American OEMs.
Jeep Renegade is a rebadged Fiat 500L.
It’ll be less than a decade
I had two Jeeps, first was originally my dad’s. It was an old shitbox. The other one was a somewhat old shitbox. 1998 & 2010. We dumped more time and money into them than I’d care to admit.
“Speed”, but instead of a vehicle exploding, it’s to avoid ads.
Officer: Why were you speeding?
Me: Wanted to avoid ads.
This isn’t even funny… This is something people will do. Jeep doesn’t give a fuck about safety. FUCK Jeep.
Jeep isn’t a true company anymore it’s just another brand under Stellantis. So FUCK stellantis and every other brand under them.
Officer, “Why’d you run that red light?”
Me, “If I hear the Meow Mix jingle one more time I’m gonna snap!”
Jeep, having heard you mention a product, dutifully plays the relevant ad.
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I thought this was a funny onion type of article… It isnt. Wtf
Our whole existence has turned into an Onion article.
It really has. And it’s getting worse every day. I wish that was hyperbole.
I thought this was the onion for a moment
Furthermore: Slashdot still exists? And it still has an active community in the comments!?
Lemmy alone hasn’t been enough to replace reddit for me; I should see if I still remember my old password…
Slashdot still has a good feed of articles. I never quit it 🤣
Yep it is slow but steady.
Fark is still around too.
Fark rules!
The site is still there, but the comment sections are no longer fun nor do you find intelligent feedback as frequently as you could in the early days. Last time I was poking around there, the mods were upvoting climate denial comments. So much for science. (source: low uid)
This is all I need to never even look at a Jeep… how pathetic can these idiots get?
Also a great way for me to never consider looking at a Ram, Chrysler, Dodge, or whatever the fuck else this corporation makes.
This, exactly this. The fact that they would even consider this rules them out for me forever.
I already had dozens of reasons to never buy a Jeep. This is just the cherry on a shitty cake.
Yep, I swore off any and all Chrysler products over a decade ago.
It’s actually part of the Sirius XM package. So I think that all you have to do is not bother with Sirius XM.
Too bad it comes with the jeep…
This is why you need government. This is why you need regulations.
Corporations are evil pieces of shit that would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.
They’d grind you and your entire family into a powder if it made them a few bucks.
Fuck Jeep and their shitty tin cars.
they would have you watch ads without seatbelts and without air bags.
No, they would require you purchase these because their business can’t sell their products without them, but they’d make you pay a subscription for them to keep working, and when you stop paying the subscription, the car stops turning on until you pay your monthly airbag and seatbelt fee.
This is why we need government that isn’t in the pocket of corporations.
We need something like lawmakers having to disclose their tax information annually. If you want to be in office and make millions you should be willing to put your morals on the review table.
Hey, you might want to team up with Sony…
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FTFY
Is this real?? Do you have the source?
I’m lost for words.
…what if the whole family is watching? Does everyone have to raise their hands and yell “McDonalds”? Including the kids?
This might just as well be used in “smart” fridges. “Do this corporate dance to get 20% off your next Corn Flakes”
There’s just no way I’m ever going to do this.
Honestly, I’d rather go forage for twigs and berries than interact with ads.
I haven’t seen an ad in like 15 years or so (at home) and i already find them incredibly dystopian and weird. I don’t really understand how people put up with that right now, but it kind of tells me that they would actually do the laola wave and yell pepsi at their screen. I found my old VHS collection the other day and watched karate kid that i recorded as a child. I think it had 2 ad breaks who were really short, and back then we thought that it’s getting a bit much with the ads.
You raise a good point.
I’m much the same in that I just refuse to watch anything with ads. They really are dystopian and weird.
I also get that same feeling when I see someone just grinding through youtube ads, but people that do that just don’t seem to have any awareness of the interaction - it’s just part of the show.
The weirdest of all is when people (usually brave browser enthusiasts?) try to claim that “some” ads are actually a good thing because it makes them aware of some product they actually desire which they wouldn’t have been aware of otherwise. I’ll take blissful ignorance thanks.
So yes, I can imagine people doing this stuff without really thinking about it.
Here you go
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sony-patent-mcdonalds/
Edit: I didn’t see the other comment, oops
Wasnt there also something about showing ads while your show is paused now too?
I’m ready to go back to kodi.
Happens on Prime now
Depending on how long you were gone, don’t get real debrid btw.
What happened to real-debrid?
I don’t know the whole story. Real debrid is french, and they released a new law or something and real debrid all debrid and mega debrid just stopped working. Except for the thing no one uses it for.
Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram,
Not just a Jeep thing. at least not for long.
Holy cow. They’ve done the impossible - they’ve found a way to make a Dodge into a shittier vehicle. I am awestruck.
All the brands of vehicle that have some of the worst historical reliability!
